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Cornel West: Judging Islam by ISIS Same As Judging Christianity for Lynching Blacks
Truth Revolt ^ | October 25, 2014 | TRey Sanchez

Posted on 10/26/2014 11:08:11 AM PDT by lbryce

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To: DaxtonBrown

And lets not talk about the imbalance in the black-on-white vs. white-on-black murders and rapes, or the murder rate by race, etc.

Idiots like West aren’t interested in a rational discussion of issues. All he is interested in is using race and white guilt to push his racist agenda. No thanks, I’m not playing.


22 posted on 10/26/2014 11:33:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: lbryce

I judge Islam by the Koran, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Martyrs Brigade, Al Shabab, Abu Sayef, Boko Haram, and the complete silence from “moderate” Muslims.


23 posted on 10/26/2014 11:42:08 AM PDT by LukeL
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To: Artcore

Corny’s been around since the 1980’s with his obsolete Afro & witch doctor in a cheap suit getup, pushing his radical views.

Why is anyone even bothering to listen? Corny sounds like the Black Panthers in Leonard Bernstein’s penthouse back in 1970 (”Radical Chic”).


24 posted on 10/26/2014 11:53:43 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: lbryce
muslims are only as moderate as there percentage in their country's population.

Including their shari law when a controlling majority.

Present day, that include honor murders, stoning to death & head-chopping.

islamic free choice: Convert - Pay - Die

25 posted on 10/26/2014 11:56:00 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: lbryce
There's a whole tradition within Islam that argues for rights, tolerance and equality," West said.

They would be heretics in my view and in the view of the fundamentalists.

That's exactly why so many so-called Cafeteria Muslims get killed along with us Infidels. They are nothing more than heretics and apostates.

Anyone not agreeing with his established religion should leave it. So these Muslims muddle along and try to change the religion to suit their lifestyles.
The problem these heretical Muslims have is that leaving the religion carries the death penalty.

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Sahih Bukhari 9:83:17 Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260

26 posted on 10/26/2014 11:56:05 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: BenLurkin

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Cornel West: Judging Islam by ISIS Same As Judging Christianity for Lynching Blacks, BenLurkin wrote:
“Islam that argues for rights, tolerance and equality - would violate eh basic tenet of Islam which requires submission to the Islamic system.No matter who you are.”

It also denys a basic tenet of both monotheisitic religions. Jewish and Christian dogma asserts that gift given from God is known as “Free Will”. The sad thing is it’s never presented as a counter argument to that teaching which both should condem that theological assertion. Until it is it will be with us.
http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


27 posted on 10/26/2014 11:57:55 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet

Dhimmi and Jizya


28 posted on 10/26/2014 12:01:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: lbryce

No true Christian ever lynched a black.


29 posted on 10/26/2014 12:05:21 PM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: lbryce

Actually, the socialists are more like Islam. Death by Christians is actually not that many.

Death by Socialist is in the multi millions....as is death by Muslim.

Will the real murderer please stand up?

Socislam stood.


30 posted on 10/26/2014 12:09:26 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Zeppo
Good catch. Using exasperating does not make sense at all. It is obvious that the author meant to use a verb in the sentence, exacerbating, but due to his lack of proficiency in English used exasperating (an adjective) instead.
31 posted on 10/26/2014 12:39:45 PM PDT by lbryce (Barack Obama:Misbegotten, Bastard Offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Old Yeller
No true Christian ever lynched a black.

Moreover, the Bible nowhere instructs any Christian to be involved in lynching, or even to single out blacks or any groups for persecution.

It is copiously documented, however, that the Koran is a completely different story.

HF

32 posted on 10/26/2014 12:45:03 PM PDT by holden
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To: lbryce

There is a big difference. The Christian bible is against such acts of violence regardless of how a few so called Christians behaved.

The Islamic bible calls for such acts of violence against all who are not Islamic.


33 posted on 10/26/2014 1:17:31 PM PDT by Revel
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To: lbryce
judging Islam by ISIS would be the same as judging Christians for killing Jews and lynching blacks.

False moral equivalency. Killing members of other religions because of their religion is a core belief of mohammedanism.It is part of its fundamental essence. Christianity has no such core belief and no such essence. They are different in kind.

34 posted on 10/26/2014 1:26:59 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: lbryce

One gets the strong sense that Mr. Cornel West already dislikes Christianity and already approves of Islam including ISIS, so why does his false equivalency driven by personal bias get any press whatsoever?

He’s just making a fairly simplistic attempt at manipulating the uninformed.


35 posted on 10/26/2014 1:30:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: lbryce
Cornel West said that judging Islam by ISIS

How about judging Islam by:

Iranian hostage taking

Marine Barrack bombing 1983

Achille Lauro hijacking

World Trade Center bombing 1993

Khobar Towers bombing

USS Cole

9/11

Madrid train, London Underground, Boston Marathon, etc ad nausium

36 posted on 10/26/2014 2:01:39 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: elcid1970

Corny’s been around since the 1980’s with his obsolete Afro & witch doctor in a cheap suit getup, pushing his radical views.
______________________________________

ROFLMAO! :-D


37 posted on 10/26/2014 2:09:45 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Old Yeller

No True Scotsman.


38 posted on 10/26/2014 2:40:43 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lbryce
there is nothing in the Bible suggesting lynching as being part of any Christian ritual.

True. But you just can't say that there is nothing in the Bible that justifies a lot of what ISIS is doing.

The laws of war in the OT are if anything even more harsh than those of Islam. As are its rules for taking slaves, including sex slaves, from the captives.

Also, the Law of Moses prescribes the death penalty for apostasy, just like Islam. While today's orthodox Jews no longer enforce this in a literal sense, many of them hold a funeral for a family member who apostasizes and consider them henceforth dead.

The point is that basic Koranic Islam is in many ways very similar to basic OT Judaism. Judaism has moved beyond this savagery, and Christianity never was there. The problem is that Islam has NOT moved beyond this literal interpretation of its Holy Books. Given its emphasis on the literal truth of those Books, I'm not sure it can.

39 posted on 10/26/2014 2:46:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lbryce

Sounds like West needs to take the time to read the Koran.


40 posted on 10/26/2014 3:36:47 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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