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The state wants its welfare money back. PERIOD.
1 posted on 10/28/2014 8:54:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He shouldn’t have run from the paternity case but two wrongs do not make a right. This is not fair.


2 posted on 10/28/2014 8:58:06 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then they should go talk to the blury lady in green.

it was not his kid, he was in jail and the process server did a sewer service..

Guy has a rock solid alibi. How many of us could come up with that from 20 years ago?


4 posted on 10/28/2014 9:02:44 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they want to put me in jail - I mean I don’t owe support for a child that I know isn’t mine.

Most people just go along with what the system wants.

This man should tell the system to go screw itself.


5 posted on 10/28/2014 9:04:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t there a TV station willing to interview this guy and call the judge out for being an IDIOT?


6 posted on 10/28/2014 9:05:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In most states, if the court orders it, you are stuck, no ands, ifs, or buts. And, to top it off, you have no right to the child as they will argue it isn’t yours.

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/can-you-get-a-refund-if-the-child-you-support-isnt-really-yours


10 posted on 10/28/2014 9:06:52 PM PDT by rey
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If ever there was a reason to abstain until marriage, this is it.


17 posted on 10/28/2014 9:17:52 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A good friend of mine paid child support for 18 years on twins after separating from his (crazy) wife but not filing a legal separation.
She wanted kids, he didn't so she got artificially inseminated.
He refused to pay at first but got nailed for all of it
19 posted on 10/28/2014 9:20:21 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to find a lawyer that will work pro-bono and 1) Sue the process server and the company he worked for 2) Sue the mother for Fraud 3) appeal the decision and take it to a higher court. Surely a good lawyer could make some money out of this!


22 posted on 10/28/2014 9:26:58 PM PDT by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Typical Democrat / Liberal War on Men.


30 posted on 10/28/2014 10:08:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can the governor issue a pardon on something like this in Michigan? It shouldn’t require that but it appears the judge is being absurd - a reasonable judge could look at this situation and just dismiss it on the court’s own motion.


31 posted on 10/28/2014 10:10:51 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prosecute the process server.

From the article...

The court focused on a summons tied to the paternity case in the late 1980’s. The state sent a process server to Alexander’s dad’s house in Highland Park to let him know about the paternity case. The process server turned a document into the court saying Alexander was delivered the summons, but he refused to sign the summons.

“I wasn’t there. I couldn’t refuse to sign,” said Alexander.


34 posted on 10/28/2014 10:19:30 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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An Evidenciary hearing or something similar must be petitioned for. The Accused must be allowed to confront the witness against him. Simply citing a document isn’t sufficient. In this case the process server who submitted a falsified document in a legal proceeding claiming to have served the Accused. As the Accused was in custody, the Server might be up on charges for submitting falsified documents. The statute of limitations won’t run until knowledge of the falsificaton is reasonably discovered. That would be now.


35 posted on 10/28/2014 10:20:16 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(1) incompetent judge should be removed from the bench.

(2) the woman that put him down as the father should be locked up for welfare fraud and required to pay the $30,000.

(3) the guy should be able to sue the state. It wouldn’t set very well with me if I had been wrongly imprisoned.


36 posted on 10/28/2014 10:22:18 PM PDT by boycott
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This is why we have trial by jury.
40 posted on 10/28/2014 11:01:15 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cases like this are not rare. It's called paternal discrepancy or paternity fraud.

Helen Smith discusses this in Men on Strike.

44 posted on 10/29/2014 12:18:13 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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There's a reason they call it "The friend of the court" and not friend of the people.

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60 posted on 10/29/2014 9:35:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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