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How To Stop Being Poor
Townhall.com ^ | November 11, 2014 | John Hawkins

Posted on 11/11/2014 5:12:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: A_perfect_lady
"The way out of poverty is simple: get an education, work hard, don't have kids while in poverty, and don't do drugs..."

and don't get sick. That's the number one cause for people who were OK falling into poverty.

21 posted on 11/11/2014 6:18:04 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Kaslin

Repeal minimum wage and start profiency pay aka “pro pay” with a profit sharing option . Work hard, get paid well. Make the employee realize they are working for themselves per se.... Win win for all IMO.

Small mom and pop cafe in my town where after operating costs are paid the pure profit is divided with 66% shared by the 4 full time employees. The owner gurrantees a 9$ a hour wage has really good people that have worked there for years. Place is small, clean, efficient and serves our small town well with breakfast and lunch in the cafe .

My opinion.....stay safe !


22 posted on 11/11/2014 6:21:31 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: woodbutcher1963
wife/sweat heart.

Rule One when posting about grammar, spelling or punctuation. Triple check that thing.

23 posted on 11/11/2014 6:25:28 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Straight Vermonter
and don't get sick. That's the number one cause for people who were OK falling into poverty.

That's what they always claim, and for some it's true, but for some it's rather suspicious. I'm extremely suspicious of people "sank into poverty" because they had "depression" or "a bad back."

I might be a little cynical because I have a brother-in-law with a "bad back" that prevents him from keeping jobs but doesn't prevent him from all his hobbies, many of which are quite physical. I also notice that many people with "depression" can't focus on work but can focus on a complex video game for 6 hours straight.

24 posted on 11/11/2014 6:25:53 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kaslin

Thank you for posting this.


25 posted on 11/11/2014 6:26:26 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Kaslin

If you want to eat you have to work. Tell this to the generational entitlement crowd


26 posted on 11/11/2014 6:29:22 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit)
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To: Kaslin
Excellent article. It's one thing when government contributes to one's lack of motivation but it's another when a church does so.

I wish I had the guts to forward this article to my Pastor.

We have had several able-bodied young men live on our campus over the years and have even gone so far as to remodel modular buildings into living quarters for these guys to live in without any requirement on their part to earn their keep or any admonition for them to straighten up and fly right.

In fact, we are remodeling another modular and bringing two trailers onto the property for parolees and/or homeless guys to live in.

I would appreciate any prayers for me to be able to say the right thing the right way to open my Pastor's eyes to see that we are not helping these guys improve their lives. We are just giving them a way to continue to be a drag on society.

27 posted on 11/11/2014 6:29:40 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Kaslin
Getting on government welfare programs is much like getting on heroin. Once you're hooked, it is almost impossible to get off it and doing it is even more painful. It saps the spirit and self-respect.

Of course, that is The Plan: "Vote DEMOCRAT and we will take care of your needs!"...

28 posted on 11/11/2014 6:42:29 AM PST by Gritty (Obama wants to wage war by measuring it out in teaspoons - Ralph Peters)
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To: Texas Eagle

2 Thessalonians 3

“6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
8 Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.”

During harvesting, a bit is left for future gleaning, where every last bit is harvested by the poor. Note that this gleaning amount is LEFT in the field for the poor to get for themselves. The field was not gleaned by the owner and then the produce simply turned over to idle poor. The poor were welcome to come and glean, but they had to do the work of gleaning themselves.

This is the model for Biblical charity for the poor.

Leviticus 19

“9 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.
10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.”

Leviticus 23:22 “And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the Lord your God.”

Ruth 2

“6 And the servant that was set over the reapers answered and said, It is the Moabitish damsel that came back with Naomi out of the country of Moab:
7 And she said, I pray you, let me glean and gather after the reapers among the sheaves: so she came, and hath continued even from the morning until now, that she tarried a little in the house.”

Jeremiah 49:9 “If grapegatherers come to thee, would they not leave some gleaning grapes? if thieves by night, they will destroy till they have enough.”


29 posted on 11/11/2014 7:21:44 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: A_perfect_lady

What you told them is too SIMPLE for many people to understand, I am not joking, you have to complicate things for some people. I sold printing equipment for many years and I had a dealership on one add on attachment that was so simple that most of my customers never were able to grasp how it worked. They kept trying to tell me that it worked in some strange way that they imagined. It really is amazing to see people overlook the obvious and search diligently for a complicated solution to a very simple problem. Then when you realize you have done it yourself it really hits home. I’ll go away now but I could talk about this phenomenon all day, it is fascinating.


30 posted on 11/11/2014 7:27:04 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thank you for the references. I will meditate upon them and pray for the Holy Spirit to inhabit my words when the time is right.


31 posted on 11/11/2014 7:29:44 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: woodbutcher1963

“...proper English punctuation and spelling.”

You are asking for something that is out of reach for many. College graduates, including many who post on FR, don’t understand the use of pronouns and or homonyms. Even advertising copy which I would expect to be written by people who have a command of language often contains errors which would have gotten me thrown out of a fifth grade English class. I have actually seen their, there and they’re all used incorrectly in one paragraph on FR and possibly even in one sentence. I have seen the same with your and you’re. I begin to wonder what kind of people are being hired to teach language now.


32 posted on 11/11/2014 7:39:18 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: RipSawyer

exactly... I keep trying to tell my wife this.. we had a 3 month period where we were buying $50 bottles of wine... that adds up when it’s 2 or 3 a week.

we put the kabosh on that habit.

simple math, spend less than you make, save or invest in something stable, the money that you do not spend.

oh yeah and get married... 2 incomes really help.


33 posted on 11/11/2014 7:42:26 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: MrB
Here’s how to earn more than minimum wage.

I'd add "Smile" to your list, but yep, other than that, it's spot on.

Amazing how so few people can manage to get over that low a bar. I trip over people all the time who can't accomplish your three rules in an interview.

They don't get a second chance for me to check them out on a daily basis.

34 posted on 11/11/2014 7:49:37 AM PST by wbill
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To: Texas Eagle

Yes, you should say something. Last year and part of this year I was homeless (not destitute, but had no perm. home) and I rented a missionary apartment from my church. We negotiated a rent, which I paid on time and when I left, I made sure the apartment was so clean you could eat off the floors if you wanted. And I made sure the church staff got a thank you note and small gift to show my appreciation for their help. They told me that very rarely do they get thank-you’s from people that they help. I was stunned.


35 posted on 11/11/2014 7:59:26 AM PST by midnightcat
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To: Kaslin

Liberals: Measure ‘compassion’ by how many people they can get onto welfare.

Conservatives: Measure compassion by how many don’t need welfare.


36 posted on 11/11/2014 8:01:18 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: midnightcat
We negotiated a rent, which I paid on time and when I left, I made sure the apartment was so clean you could eat off the floors if you wanted.

I'm glad you mentioned that. To me, that is the starting point. Keeping the room clean. Instead, we let these guys live like pigs. You people are encouraging me. Thank you.

37 posted on 11/11/2014 8:06:18 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle

You know, many people have to be trained from the ground up. If you guys have the time and the means, you might start with very small studios and if the inhabitants keep it clean for, say, 3 months, they earn a privilege, like cable tv or internet hook up. After 6 months of cleanliness, they can earn an upgrade to a bigger room, that sort of thing.


38 posted on 11/11/2014 8:13:32 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
Excellent ideas. We have a couple of offices that are set up for volunteers to use to print bulletins, flyers and other administrative things. When those offices are empty, there will be guys in there surfing the internet, Facebooking, etc.

I've caught several guys in there cruising dating sites that feature Russian women, Asian women, etc.

When I bring it to the attention of one of the church leaders, nothing is done about it. In fact, they make excuses for the guys. It's weird.

39 posted on 11/11/2014 8:24:35 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Kaslin

If you don’t help your self no one else will so prove your self or live a lifetime in poverty.


40 posted on 11/11/2014 8:48:33 AM PST by Vaduz
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