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Jonathan Chait must have missed the comments from Jonathan Gruber. Obamacare was a lie from the beginning and relied on the stupidity of voters, congress, and editorial writers.
1 posted on 11/11/2014 6:12:16 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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2 posted on 11/11/2014 6:13:34 AM PST by lowbridge
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Worst Jedi mind trick ever.

What a lying sack of Chait.

3 posted on 11/11/2014 6:14:50 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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and the 5 million who lost their healthcare because of Obamacare ? what of THEIR health!?


4 posted on 11/11/2014 6:16:52 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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“They will also kill what are now identifiable human beings.”

Why is the Left always upset about this? It’s just a late-late term abortion! They love it when babies and our elderly, ‘useless feeders’ are left to die.

What’s the problem, Lefties? Are ya mad that only ONE will be killed, versus five?

*SMIRK*


5 posted on 11/11/2014 6:19:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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But of course the idea of Death Panels is laughable.


6 posted on 11/11/2014 6:20:16 AM PST by skeeter
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50-60 million aborted babies are of no concern I suppose.


8 posted on 11/11/2014 6:23:54 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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Obama care is a lie, if anyones to blame it his the liar and chief and his clown posse.


9 posted on 11/11/2014 6:24:51 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit)
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A useless straw man argument that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.

10 posted on 11/11/2014 6:25:55 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Repeal it, save America from this abomination, and further sweep congress + the white house in 2016.


11 posted on 11/11/2014 6:27:29 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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Really? This is the smart liberal argument against repealing Obamacare? That Republicans want to kill people? Obviously, among other reasons, it is now clear that Obamacare must go because the burden of defending it seems to be causing psychological derangement and organic brain damage in liberals.
12 posted on 11/11/2014 6:27:38 AM PST by Rockingham
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Actually, the question needs to be rephrased:

“A runaway trolley is headed toward five people bound on the tracks. You are standing before the switch that could divert it onto another track, where it would kill only one person.

“And the person on that other track is a welfare recipient, frequent criminal offender, illegal alien radical Muslim drug dealer, who is a reliable Democrat-socialist who votes fraudulently several times in every election, and wants America destroyed.”

Do you pull the switch? Do you argue with other conservatives over who gets to pull the switch?


14 posted on 11/11/2014 6:33:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Chait iis a dutiful Obama boot licker.


15 posted on 11/11/2014 6:38:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Not that gun running to Mexico will kill people.


20 posted on 11/11/2014 6:50:05 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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What if the guy gets the drugs and still dies? Did his health insurance kill him?


21 posted on 11/11/2014 6:53:26 AM PST by JmyBryan
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OK, the liberal argument on Owebamacare is going to be like the one they use for racism, you either agree to go along with what the socialist bastard wants, or you are a racist and want to kill the poor.

Their strawman is proof they can’t defend Owebamacare using logic or facts.


22 posted on 11/11/2014 6:53:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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The answer is yes, or else you kill the 5 people. Then you go PROSECUTE the person who set the trolley cart moving.


24 posted on 11/11/2014 7:02:31 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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Couldnt help but notice the very first comment on the article by user “Vilila”:

“Every 1st world country in the world has a national healthcare system run by government for its citizens.  People do not suffer or die needless deaths”

Well, thats news to every first world country that has a national health care system run by government.

NHS Inquiry: British Healthcare System Caused Up to 13,000 “Needless Deaths” Since 2005

http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/07/24/nhs-inquiry-british-healthcare-system-caused-up-to-13000-needless-deaths-since-2005-n1647370

Injured Japanese Man Dies After 14 Hospitals Refuse to Admit Him

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/02/04/injured-japanese-man-dies-after-14-hospitals-refuse-to-admit-him/

Fact No. 1:  Americans have better survival rates than Europeans for common cancers.[1]  Breast cancer mortality is 52 percent higher in Germany than in the United States, and 88 percent higher in the United Kingdom.  Prostate cancer mortality is 604 percent higher in the U.K. and 457 percent higher in Norway.  The mortality rate for colorectal cancer among British men and women is about 40 percent higher.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649

I could go on with thousands of more examples.

Supporters of obamacare such as “vilila” are liars and morons.


29 posted on 11/11/2014 7:17:46 AM PST by lowbridge
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Spurious argument...

Flailing at the wind.
Chicken Little.

No one made the argument prior to Obamacare that people were dying in the streets, at least no one reputable. But now, without it, of course it will be Armageddon...


30 posted on 11/11/2014 7:20:55 AM PST by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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The trolley bus problem is structured into Obamacare: it relies on the premise government can dictates market forces and create lower prices and more choice in health care plans through competition.

As a conservative, I have no objection to this nor even to sliding subsidies to lower income people to get insured. If that was the way it really worked, Obamacare would be a part of our social fabric.

In truth, it doesn’t do that: the market is artificially restricted through a sweetheart deal between liberal politicians and the insurance industry; premiums are soaring through the roof and people are finding out they way no way of knowing what health care plan works best for them.

This is not rational, fiscally responsible or even humane. And worst of all, it doesn’t truly address the uninsured problem. The Democrats imposed it upon the country on the basis of outright lies, obfuscating what the law would do and rolling out Obamacare before it was ready.

And Jonathan Chait blames Republicans for trying to undermine it and kill sick people. That is dishonest and factually inaccurate. If Obamcare had truly delivered on its promises, the American people would have voted to re-elect every single Democrat to the Senate who voted for it.

Above all, Chait would do well to remember Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote. Even Republican moderates who were amenable to health care reform - would not go anywhere near it. People deserve access to health care and contrary to Chait’s insinuation, no conservative wants any one to get sick and die for lack of ability to pay.

But we don’t inconvenience 90% of the public to help the 10% who do need to be covered. That is exactly what Obamacare did and why its loathed by the American people. What they were promised they did not get; and what they got did not work at all. That is why we are where we are today. Its beyond dispute Obamacare is a failure on many levels in this country.

Too bad Chait and his circle around him can’t see it. Trolley bus problem, indeed.


34 posted on 11/11/2014 7:50:31 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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File into the BLA BLA BLA folder. And how many people are the socialist going to kill with Ebola.


35 posted on 11/11/2014 8:02:06 AM PST by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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