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Voter stupidity remark gives GOP new ammo on ObamaCare
The Hill ^ | November 12, 2014 | Sarah Ferris and Elise Viebeck

Posted on 11/13/2014 2:14:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Comments about voter stupidity made by an ally of the Obama administration are turning into conservatives’ newest weapon against the president’s healthcare law.

A series of unearthed videos of ObamaCare consultant Jonathan Gruber insulting U.S. voters while saying a “lack of transparency” helped Congress pass the healthcare law are attracting serious attention on the right just as Republicans prepare to take control of the Senate.

The newly discovered remarks — revealed so far in three videos circulated by conservative media — add fuel to the GOP’s claim that Democrats were deliberately obscuring pieces of the law to assure its passage.

Add a wave of interest from Republican lawmakers and increasing scrutiny from the mainstream media, and you have the latest flashpoint in the abiding partisan war over ObamaCare, just ahead of the start of the law’s second enrollment periodon Saturday.

Gruber, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who also helped craft that state’s healthcare reform law, said Tuesday that he regrets saying ObamaCare passed because of the “stupidity of the American voter.”

Two additional videos have been released since then. In those clips, Gruber said the law’s passage relied on “basic exploitation of [voters’] lack of economic understanding,” and that Americans are “too stupid to understand" the law's so-called Cadillac tax.

Republicans have pounced on the remarks and are already weighing congressional hearings, which would create an enormous headache for Democrats.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a candidate for chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said Wednesday that he supports a hearing, though his spokesman said no event had yet been scheduled.

“We may want to have hearings on this,” Jordan told The Washington Post. “We shouldn't be surprised they were misleading us.”

Republicans have long charged that the healthcare reform bill was pushed through without public scrutiny. A gaffe from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in 2010 added to this impression.

“We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it, away from the fog of the controversy,” Pelosi said.

Pelosi argues the remark was taken out of context and that she was referring to the uncertainty about what legislation would emerge from the Senate. But the comment still echoes in conservative rhetoric four years later.

On the other side of the Capitol, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) said he was “sure” that Gruber would be brought to Congress to testify.

The comments confirmed his suspicions that the Obama administration had been dishonest about the law, Shelby said.

“A lot of us questioned, when they were proposing it, questioned a lot of things,” he said. “They had the numbers and they ran it through. Now we realize a lot of things were being questioned inside the administration, that it was not going to work as they said.”

The ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said the comments should not be used to attack the substance of the law.

“Obviously these comments were misguided – even he admits that – but it is even more misguided for Republicans to try to use them as part of a cynical political campaign to cut healthcare for millions of Americans,” Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) wrote in a statement to The Hill.

Democratic strategist and former Clinton administration official Chris Lehane also dismissed the flare-up, comparing Republicans circling around ObamaCare to “six years olds bunched up around a soccer ball — and never getting a real shot off.”

“The comments are so old that they have mold on them,” Lehane said of Gruber’s remarks.

“I have little doubt the Republicans who when in the minority refused and rejected compromise, including on their own policies, will blow up their own narrative about seeking compromise over their excitement to try feed their base.”

But others pointed out that incremental release of videos could hurt the administration during a sensitive week, with less than three days before ObamaCare’s exchanges open again for enrollment.

“This becomes a distraction and a problem for the White House if the new open enrollment period is a problem,” said one D.C.-based Democratic strategist who worked on ObamaCare.

“If that goes off well, if the website is running much more smoothly, this will just look like Republicans re-litigating stuff about the process from five years ago. If not, these [videos] become a bigger headache.”

The release of Gruber comments occurs just as the Obama administration takes pains to lower expectations ahead of its second sign-up period, hoping to avoid a repeat of last year’s crisis.

Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell said Tuesday that she’s hoping for 9.1 million enrollees for 2015, markedly less than the 13 million projected by the Congressional Budget Office.

Democrats’ drubbing in the midterm elections, meanwhile, has taken focus off better news for ObamaCare and put it back on how Republicans hope to dismantle the law next year.

On MSNBC Tuesday morning, former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean acknowledged that Gruber's comments have stung the party, though he downplayed the professor’s role in the law’s passage.

“He's a consultant, not the architect [of] ObamaCare,” Dean said, adding: “I’m not excusing the language — it’s terrible.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aca; california; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; schiklgruber; transparency
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Republicans have long charged that the healthcare reform bill was pushed through without public scrutiny. A gaffe from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in 2010 added to this impression. “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it, away from the fog of the controversy,” Pelosi said. Pelosi argues the remark was taken out of context and that she was referring to the uncertainty about what legislation would emerge from the Senate. But the comment still echoes in conservative rhetoric four years later.

Because it was TRUE!

Add all of this to Obama's "If you like your doctor and hospital you can keep it." And the claims that the average American family will save $2500 once Obamacare is the law of the land.

The ACA is filled with lies and deceit. Not one Republican in Congress voted for the ACA.

Gruber: Republicans Trying To "Confuse People" About Obamacare

GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage :53 YouTube viewed 757,327 times.

1 posted on 11/13/2014 2:14:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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At 1:53 listen to Gruber's little story that he uses to spring-board his talk on the ACA (Punch line: people don't want to know that much about it); followed by: "...I'm going to try not to tell you what you want to know and rather let what you want to know come out of my conversation with (C-Span-2 Book TV host after his opening comments)."
2 posted on 11/13/2014 2:26:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So what I can gather from the comments from the Dems is that the comments are awkward and old? And that we should just pretend like they didn’t happen?

Yeah, ok.


3 posted on 11/13/2014 2:36:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Breitbart: Turns Out Jonathan Gruber Made Lots of 'Off the Cuff' Insulting Speak-os "Some new words have been added to the American lexicon thanks to the serial lies and insults of embattled ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber.

To "gruber" is to lie to someone because you think they're too dumb to know any different. It is to insult your own base because they have proved so easy to deceive in the past.

"Grubering" is the act of brainstorming for new ways to fool the voters.

A "gruberism" is a lie told by a Democrat politician that is so brazen, so hackish, so unbelievable, it reveals a complete contempt on the part of the politician toward his supporters.

As Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying, liberals wake up every morning and ask themselves, “how can we fool them, today?"

Democrats have long had contempt for their own voters, but we never had a name for it until know so thanks to ObamaCare Architect Johnathan Gruber........."

4 posted on 11/13/2014 2:42:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hearings my ass - everyone knows this is a crap sandwich - just defund this thing as the first order of business


5 posted on 11/13/2014 2:42:58 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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More "a basic, clever exploitation of the lack of understanding of the American voter" crowed over by Jonathan Gruber in explaining his Cadillac tax.
6 posted on 11/13/2014 2:50:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Obviously these comments were misguided – even he admits that – but it is even more misguided for Republicans to try to use them as part of a cynical political campaign to cut healthcare for millions of Americans,” Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) wrote in a statement to The Hill.

In other words...


7 posted on 11/13/2014 2:51:15 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: MAexile

You’ve pegged it.


8 posted on 11/13/2014 3:02:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He said Voters are STUPID and that they have to LIE to them BECAUSE they are STUPID THREE TIMEs and always in front of an audience and they ALWAYS LAUGHED....meaning they AGREED with him!!

So WHY didn't ANY of these audience members MENTION it to ANY reporter?? One of the biggest stories of the year!! Could bring down OBAMACARE!!

Plus, it was a TWOFER....gets rid of Romney also because he was behind Romneycare in Mass!!

9 posted on 11/13/2014 3:35:29 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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“Could bring down OBAMACARE!!”

No it won't. This will be forgotten by Jan 2nd.

10 posted on 11/13/2014 4:03:18 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Ann Archy
He said Voters are STUPID and that they have to LIE to them BECAUSE they are STUPID THREE TIMEs and always in front of an audience and they ALWAYS LAUGHED....meaning they AGREED with him!!
So WHY didn't ANY of these audience members MENTION it to ANY reporter?? One of the biggest stories of the year!! Could bring down OBAMACARE!!


The reason that the audience laughed and agreed is the same reason no one in the audience publicized his comments.

It is an axiomatic conceit among the groups that make up the Technocratic Ruling Elite (made of members of the self proclaimed Academic, Media and Political Elites) that the world's political and economic system has become so complex that it is so beyond the capabilities of the stupid, uneducated (uneducated as defined by the lack of an advanced degree from an Ivy League school) and unwashed yokels in fly over country to even understand, much less participate in the decision making and day to running of government.

Instead, the stupid, brutish, selfish and greedy yokels must be cared for by the benevolent dictatorship made up of their betters in the Ruling Elite who are suitably educated with the proper skills and are imbued with the proper amount benevolence, selflessness, generosity and ideological purity to properly run todays complex and nuanced world.

All for us yokels own good, of course.

These self proclaimed elites feel that ordinary, middle class Americans are a actually lower form of life slightly above cattle and with the same herd mentality as cattle.

As such us fly over country yokels need to be herded like cattle and for their herding efforts it is only right and proper that they, the ruling elites, are well fed and indulge themselves of a healthy diet of steak and prime rib provided by the herd.

11 posted on 11/13/2014 4:05:52 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: JSteff

Don’t be stupid.


12 posted on 11/13/2014 4:10:16 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And....then?


13 posted on 11/13/2014 4:14:53 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: JSteff

Who got eliminated from DWTS this week?</example


14 posted on 11/13/2014 4:32:22 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So we got a piece of crap legislation foisted on to us through lies and deceptions and all The Hill is concerned about is that it gives the GOP more ammo and makes obama look more bad than he already is.


15 posted on 11/13/2014 4:32:30 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Ann Archy

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/private_citizens_doing_the_job_investigative_reporters_wont_do.html


16 posted on 11/13/2014 4:36:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Vendome; All
At 1:53 listen to Gruber's little story, one that he tells about his sister (mother and father) to spring-board his talk on the ACA (Punch line: people don't want to know that much about it); followed by:..I'm going to try not to tell you what you (don't) want to know and rather let what you want to know come out of my conversation with (C-Span-2 Book TV host after his opening comments)."
17 posted on 11/13/2014 4:40:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ann Archy
The stupid one is the one who believes that the public will even remember the release of those video's after the holiday season and Obola’s deceptions between now and then.

Not to mention the LMSM’s help to distract the public away from all of it.

That is the really stupid one.

18 posted on 11/13/2014 5:12:06 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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Donate And Keep The Lights On


19 posted on 11/13/2014 5:35:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So far the MSM has suppressed the story--no mention of it on ABC, CBS, NBC, or in The New York Times. Only Fox is covering it. How long can they maintain media silence on the story?
20 posted on 11/13/2014 7:19:45 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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