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Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber has billed governments $5.9 million
Dailymail ^ | Nov 14, 2014 | David Martosko

Posted on 11/15/2014 4:25:50 PM PST by entropy12

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To: Pearls Before Swine

Of the eight U.S. states that have contracted with Gruber to get access to his computer model – Colorado, Connecticut, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin – four of them have published contracts worth about $400,000 each.

If the other four followed suit, that would amount to another $1.6 million. Some of those fees were shared with other researchers who co-authored his reports.

All eight used his services to help estimate insurance marketplace costs related to their state-based Obamacare programs.

As far as states went he charged them $400,000 to see a mathematical model of public health care he developed. Eight states at $400,000 each......he only did the modeling once

In any case, the passage of the Affordable Care Act in 2010 has been lucrative for Gruber and his microsimulation model. All told, he has been hired by at least eight states to provide advice or assist in creating the health-insurance exchanges that are at the heart of the Affordable Care Act: Colorado, Connecticut, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/14/did-jonathan-gruber-earn-almost-400000-from-the-obama-administration/

 

41 posted on 11/15/2014 5:35:08 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Fresh Wind

EXEMPT Roberts: "I am here from the government to destroy the Constitution
for the impostor EXEMPT Indonesian, you stupid non-EXEMPT suckers."

42 posted on 11/15/2014 5:35:39 PM PST by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: entropy12
Returning the money can be part of his plea bargain. .
43 posted on 11/15/2014 5:41:41 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: FreeReign

Gruber throws an election party every four years that celebrates the Democrats no matter if they win or lose

From March 28, 2012 NYT:
Mr. Gruber calls himself a “card-carrying Democrat.” He and his wife host a “great quadrennial Democratic victory party” whether or not the Democratic candidate wins, he said. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/business/jonathan-gruber-health-cares-mr-mandate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


44 posted on 11/15/2014 5:43:11 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dfwgator
But without the Politicos he’s just another guy with an opinion.

Without the lying, anti-American, infiltrated-by-foreign-interests news media, the politicians aren't elected.

They are all part of the Anti American Complex that is destroying our country.

Some are con men. Some believe in what they are doing. Based on Gruber's own words, Gruber appears to believe in government run health care. He appears to believe in fooling the voting public so that they could redistribute wealth to fund their government run healthcare system.

I have a beef with all of them.

45 posted on 11/15/2014 5:57:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: rdcbn

“I have called on Jonathan Gruber to return the $400,000 he has amassed as a result of his questionable conduct. Furthermore, I believe that the financial arrangement between Gruber and the Obama administration deserves an examination and I will be urging the House Oversight committee to investigate”.

-Congressman Ron DeSantis, (R) FL


46 posted on 11/15/2014 5:59:00 PM PST by Captain7seas (y)
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To: Diogenesis

Remember—there are no accidents in politics. Were the Gruber videos really uncovered, as reported, by a citizen-journalist who lost his health insurance? If so, why hasn’t he explained how he uncovered them? It’s his business, of course, but inquiring minds want to know. Who is he and what if any connections has he politically? Has he been threatened, or did he just buy a new yacht?

If the source is not this citizen-journalist, or there is more than one source, some serious detective work is in order. Who stands to gain by these revelations? Who captured the original videos? And why would anyone post such damning footage?

Inquiring minds wanna know.


47 posted on 11/15/2014 6:00:38 PM PST by huckfillary
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To: dennisw

Yep, he only did the modeling once.

$400K gets you a peek.

I wouldn’t care if it was private sector, but this was used as a template to screw us all, and our idiot Dem Congresscritters voted it in, even if almost none of them understood it.

However, because it was the public sector, purchased in my name (however indirectly), I’m pissed, and would like to see it explored. Double on that because Gruber was braggingly honest about aspects of the dishonesty in the bill.


48 posted on 11/15/2014 6:05:45 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: entropy12

Justice with Judge Pirro just had a clip with Pelosi mentioning MIT’s Jonathan Gruber. Therefore she lied and we have proof by her own recorded words.


49 posted on 11/15/2014 6:09:54 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: entropy12

I’ll kick in another $10 for rope.


50 posted on 11/15/2014 6:11:53 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: entropy12
Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber has billed BILKED governments $5.9 million,
51 posted on 11/15/2014 6:12:11 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Captain7seas
Withhold the equivalent dollars from MIT grant and research money.Fix the process.
52 posted on 11/15/2014 6:13:57 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: entropy12

The Ouija Board sees a fiery crash in Gruber’s future.


53 posted on 11/15/2014 6:22:28 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: rdcbn
If the Gruber Microsimulation Model actually predicted the $2500 cost savings then Gruber owes the Government a big refund due to faulty work product .

If the Gruber Microsimulation Model is correct and it predicted the ObamaCare disaster we are seeing then we have been lied to and defrauded by the President of the United States and the Democrat Party.


Or how about he was told the desired outcome and worked backward to make it happen.
54 posted on 11/15/2014 6:37:48 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12
From Wikipedia:

Gruber is a German surname from Bavaria, referring to a person from a pit, mine or depression.

This fits. He's been digging a giant hole for himself and the entire Democrat party.

55 posted on 11/15/2014 7:12:02 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Girlene
Is it not Common Law to allow or refunds due to defective products or workmanship?

1. Keep your plan or doctor, if u like it;
2. $2500 Savings;
3. Lower the Deficit;
4. etc...

Gruber Model is Crazy Defective! If not, CRIMINAL due to the massive expenditures! For eg., A Billion F'in Dollar Website!

56 posted on 11/15/2014 7:25:03 PM PST by babbabooey (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Your math might not work. You multiplied his earnings by 1000 times. The article said 5.9 million, you rounded off to 6 billion.


57 posted on 11/15/2014 7:27:00 PM PST by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: rdcbn

The Gruber Microsimulation Model is real “science.” It will go down in history with the Orgone Energy Accumulator, also a product of “science.” Goober collected millions, but he was not greedy. Only capitalists can be greedy.


58 posted on 11/15/2014 8:04:07 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: FreeReign
Guys like this work hand-in-hand with the politicos. They may even believe in the arrogant government-knows-best philosophy more than the politicos.

******

Amnesty: I heard that MIT Professor Gruber helped President Obama with Obama's upcoming executive order concerning immigration.

59 posted on 11/15/2014 8:54:04 PM PST by john mirse
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Grubers bragging was prompted by selling the same $400,000 micro simulation model to 8 state governments and the Feds.

What a score! There must have been some minimal tweaking each time he sold it to say a Wyoming. But not much.

Its like a used car salesman being legally able to sell the same beat up car to 9 people. He would be bragging to his used automobile cronies


60 posted on 11/15/2014 9:51:06 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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