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You Have to Give It to the President
National Review (Corner) ^ | 11/20/14 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:04 AM PST by madprof98

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To: rfreedom4u
But what will the republicans actually do?

If the past performance is any indication of future performance, nothing. Oh, they may talk, bluster, promise "elect me and I will repeal", while waiting for the heat to go down and it to be old news, but at the end of the day, nothing. Don't believe it, look at obamacare.

41 posted on 11/21/2014 5:43:39 AM PST by sport
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To: rfreedom4u

Have you read your Constitution lately? Even after the new Congress sits in January, there will be 54 GOP Senators. The Constitution requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate for removal from office. Therefore, 67 Senators must vote to remove Obama in an impeachment trial. Even assuming that all the GOP senators vote to remove, do you really think it’s realistic to expect 13 Dem senators to vote to remove Obama?


42 posted on 11/21/2014 5:43:58 AM PST by stremba
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To: stremba

I have said that a few times on this db and all I have been met with is silence.


43 posted on 11/21/2014 5:45:50 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: petercooper
Since these are the parents of U.S. citizens, I'll bet they already qualify for all of those things anyway.
44 posted on 11/21/2014 5:47:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: madprof98
You have to give it to the president

or he will take it eventually.

45 posted on 11/21/2014 5:52:17 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: stremba

I dont know, but I do think that it will ultimately be the rats that lead the charge in taking him out. The rat party was here long before this tyrant was born, and will be around long after he departs.

the minute that they realize that he is taking them to hell in a handcart with him, they will toss HIM under the bus, to save their own skins.

just like the repubs did with nixon.


46 posted on 11/21/2014 5:53:17 AM PST by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: madprof98
Refusal to deport, rationalized however thinly as prosecutorial discretion, is the absence of action. Issuance of work permits, drivers licenses, etc. requires affirmative action, and that is quite a different issue.

As a legal matter, Obama's fig leaf is that the Administration is just too overburdened to manage deportations, but when it comes to 101 administrative actions to roll out the red carpet to the next generation of democratic voters, the Administration has no difficulty finding the resources. This does not fool anyone.

So the immediate question is: is there, anywhere in these United States, a judge who will issue an emergency injunction blocking a plainly illegal abuse of power? For the umpteenth time, if a Republican president did something like this, the injunction would be issued before cob today.

47 posted on 11/21/2014 5:53:25 AM PST by sphinx
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To: SoFloFreeper
In the end, this bodes ill for the Demon Rats.

Then they will simply run against the chaos they created, and they will be abetted by their media.

48 posted on 11/21/2014 5:56:48 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: madprof98

It is an important detail that both the House and the Senate have complete control over how they do their business.

Importantly, no previous House or Senate can constrain the current one in how it functions.

So if the House wants to, it can change the budgetary process.

Right now, almost all budget bills are “omnibus” bills providing funding for a vast number of evils. But they do not have to be this way.

What the House should do is to start separating the most repulsive of these agencies and activities into their own bills. And only send Obama “must pass” bills that are clean and stripped of anything extraneous.

And then do what Harry Reid did with the funding bills, which is to refuse to consider them, but just for the obnoxious and unconstitutional bills. Once they are separated out, they don’t even get voted on, and no opportunity for Obama to veto them.

With zero funding, they are over and done for. And there is nothing Obama can do about it. He cannot give those agencies a continuing resolution. Without money, they do not function, and their staff does not get paid.


49 posted on 11/21/2014 5:58:26 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: madprof98

Clearly he has studied his Alinsky very, very well.


50 posted on 11/21/2014 6:03:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

There are a few holes in your idea:

1) Obama has shown the willingness to veto partial budget bills, and the Ministry of Propaganda (NBC/CBS/ABC/CNN/WP/LAT/NYT) cheerfully blames “Republicans who are shutting the budget down”.

2) If Obama gets any money at all, he will spend it on things that the money is not earmarked for. Clinton did it, you KNOW this Muslim gay cracksmoker will.


51 posted on 11/21/2014 6:04:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: madprof98
o may write his UNCONSTITUTIONAL EO, but the pressure needs to be put on the HOUSE, as the POWER OF THE PURSE originates in the HOUSE. And we need to get the Speaker to use his GONADS instead of wring his hands and cry, it can be stopped. CUT OFF ALL FUNDING FOR ILLEGALS WITH ANCHOR BABIES AN ILLEGAL INVADERS, don't allow them to use our schools, health care, or Welfare.


52 posted on 11/21/2014 6:04:33 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: stremba

I have read it recently and carry a copy with me all the time. While it does say it requires a 2/3’s vote to remove it merely states 2/3’s present. I doubt it will happen. But to bring it before the Senate and get democrats on the record defending his illegal actions may help expose them also. I don’t have any faith in Congress anymore as they are mostly out for themselves but it is nice to dream. But the disappointment when I awake is terrible.


53 posted on 11/21/2014 6:05:46 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: Liz
This is entirely political, based on his calculation of how to inflict the most harm on the Republican Party. Neither Obama nor the Democrats generally care about the illegal aliens as people. If they did they would have addressed the problem in 2009-2010. They didn't because they wanted to keep it alive as an issue to use against the Republicans and (they hope) to get a larger share of the Hispanic vote.

The unconstitutionality of Obama's action is a plus from his standpoint because it shows up the impotence of the opposition. Just like Putin grabbing Crimea in defiance of world opinion.

Obama's tactics may drive more white Americans into the Republican Party, but that will be compensated for by additional votes by illegal aliens.

54 posted on 11/21/2014 6:07:25 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Salvey; woweeitsme

In any cathartic, spasmodic, ‘revolutionary’ backlash, the press must be first.


55 posted on 11/21/2014 6:07:35 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Deciding Female Criminal Guilt By How Hot They Are Since 1999 !)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good description but you are assuming Obama won’t order money to be taken from one account and deposited into another. He has just demonstrated that laws mean nothing.


56 posted on 11/21/2014 6:10:40 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: IamConservative
The worst effect I fear will be an even bigger flood of immigrants crossing our borders.

True. But in 2 years we'll switch incentives and allow these people to 'self deport'... They found a way here - they can find a way back.

57 posted on 11/21/2014 6:13:42 AM PST by GOPJ ('Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State' Vladimir Lenin1945 pamphlet)
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To: madprof98
"You Have to Give It to the President"

I would, if I had one.

58 posted on 11/21/2014 6:14:35 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Tupelo
"As I listen to the sound & fury coming out of Washington from the Ruling Class"P> Indeed, all the rinos are secretly cheering because its what their big money backers at the Chamber of Commerce have wanted all along.

Sure mcsquish and the cryer will huff & puff but that's it.

The GOPe is nothing but a collection of whores that have sold this country out for their own aggrandizement.

59 posted on 11/21/2014 6:22:10 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Lazamataz

That is why the Republicans must parse the heck out of the budget bills. Imagine how Obama would panic if hundreds of thousands of bureaucratic voices “cried out for money and were suddenly silenced.” Bureaucrats are more than happy to save their own skins by sacrificing their peers.

And “shutting down the government” doesn’t work if it is just a single agency at a time.


60 posted on 11/21/2014 6:24:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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