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1 posted on 12/02/2014 10:16:41 AM PST by Kaslin
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>> The next time you hear someone cite, “Do not kill” when quoting the sixth commandment, gently but firmly explain that it actually says, “Do not murder.”

Yes, it comes down to what is in the individual’s heart.

Turn away with no prefaced intentions of harm enter with no intentions of harm but if attacked, you have a God given right to defend yourself from losing your own life by another’s hand.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 10:26:29 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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I remember G. Gordon Liddy discussing this issue on his radio program back in the ‘90s.

He said that the Ten Commandments had not been translated correctly from the original text (in what? Aramaic?).

He said the correct translation was literally “thou shalt not do murder.”


3 posted on 12/02/2014 10:36:04 AM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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yes, my friend last nite was lamenting all the insults and gossip/smears that goes around in pro-life circles here ... most started by so called pro-lifers who are ambitious, career minded people.

They do not believe that false witness covers insults and smears. Only court room testimony, they say.

Back to the issue at hand:
“You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER ‘ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ 22”But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.…”


4 posted on 12/02/2014 10:46:57 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: Kaslin

Actually, if you want to be very precise, the Hebrew means “do not commit manslaughter or worse....” as accidental death due to carelessness was considered like murder.

Yet another example of the superiority of God’s law to any others...particularly as written in 1400 BC.


6 posted on 12/02/2014 10:55:52 AM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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If you want to see the limits of what justifies lawful killing, look at the justifications the police use to fire their weapons. I believe it is true that more police than ever before are going rogue with the administrative use of abuse and lethal violence. But that is not what I’m talking about here - that is a different subject. And, I might add, the VAST percentage of police are strictly professional, self-controlled and appropriate.

But all that aside, just consider, in your mind, how far someone can go in being aggressive with a cop before the cop will appropriately draw on them. THAT’S WHAT WE’VE LOST. It’s not that the cops have more self-protective authority, it’s that everyone else has LESS. We need to get back to people being able to defend themselves as immediately and legally safely as the police do now.


8 posted on 12/02/2014 11:22:38 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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