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White House: Obama Will Shut Down Gov't if Congress Defunds Exec Amnesty
breitbart ^ | 12/2/14 | t lee

Posted on 12/02/2014 11:27:29 AM PST by bestintxas

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To: Cowboy Bob
How will the MSM spin that one?

Haven't you figured that out yet? The headline will be "Evil Republicans Force a Second Destructive Government Shut-Down: Women and Children Will Suffer Most!"

The sub-head will be: "Selfish, Hard-Hearted Xenophobic Republicans Force President Obama to Make the Entire Nation Pay for His Benevolent, Good-Hearted Action to Uplift Poor Immigrants."

61 posted on 12/02/2014 1:14:10 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: bestintxas

Does shutting it down also include sending the usurper back to the old neighborhood in Chicago and the Secret Service get sent back to their homes, too?


62 posted on 12/02/2014 1:20:11 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: DoughtyOne

I didn’t take it in the least that you’re giving me a hard time.

Your points are dead on the mark, in fact I’ve had those same thoughts over time.

It’s good to see them listed together and I would add he’s taken the same approach to our foreign policy and military as he did with obamacare.

The woodshed moment should be impeachment and conviction but the chances are slim.


63 posted on 12/02/2014 1:24:36 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin)
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To: bestintxas; All
One would think that Obama p1ssing on Boner's leg while calling him a pu$$y would be enough to anger him to action.

But, alas, he IS a pu$$y.

64 posted on 12/02/2014 1:30:12 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Cowboy Bob
"How will the MSM spin that one?"

Racism

65 posted on 12/02/2014 1:32:23 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bestintxas; All
The outcome of these events will be a 3rd Party in 2016.

Conservative will finally realize THEIR plantation is the GOP and ridicule of Black Americans for being on the Democrat plantation was somewhat hypocritical.

How does it feel to be the GOP's b!tch?

66 posted on 12/02/2014 1:44:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Cowboy Bob

How will the MSM spin that one?

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The MSM — including FOX — keep telling us that the majority of Americans are in favor of amnesty for the fence jumpers.


67 posted on 12/02/2014 1:47:31 PM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: bestintxas

How would the Executive branch shut the government down. I thought only Congress with control of the purse could do that by denying funding..?


68 posted on 12/02/2014 3:16:12 PM PST by Track9
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To: Gator113

buff=bluff


69 posted on 12/02/2014 5:27:04 PM PST by Gator113 ( Impeach. Remove from office. Arrest. Convict. Imprison for life.)
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To: grumpygresh
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Action Plan for your "National Day of Reckoning" protest against Obama's Illegal Amnesty - (Internet Link)

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70 posted on 12/02/2014 6:16:00 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: bestintxas

The GOP leadership cannot be as dumb as br’er bear can they?


71 posted on 12/02/2014 7:39:36 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Amendment10
Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution gives the Congress the power to limit migration starting in the year 1808.

The states have always had the power to restrict migration as well.

72 posted on 12/02/2014 11:09:17 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz; All
"Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution gives the Congress the power to limit migration starting in the year 1808."

Clause 1 of Section 9 of Article I dealt with slave trading and was made as an incentive to get the slave states to join the Union.

Section 9: Limits on Congress

Note that Section 9 was effectively repealed when the 13th Amendment was ratified, that amendment abolishing slavery.

Otherwise, PC interpretations of both the Constitution’s Uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause (1.8.4) and Clause 1 of Section 9 of Article I aside, interpretations used to justify federal immigration laws, please note the following. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, Madison generally regarded as the father of the Constitution, had written that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate immigration, immigration uniquely a 10th Amendment-protected state power issue.

Here’s the related excerpt from Jefferson’s writings.

“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

And here’s the related excerpt from Madison’s writings.

"That the General Assembly doth particularly protest against the palpable and alarming infractions of the Constitution, in the two late cases of the "Alien and Sedition Acts" passed at the last session of Congress; the first of which exercises a power no where delegated to the federal government, ...

… the General Assembly doth solemenly appeal to the like dispositions of the other states, in confidence that they will concur with this commonwealth in declaring, as it does hereby declare, that the acts aforesaid, are unconstitutional; and that the necessary and proper measures will be taken by each, for co-operating with this state, in maintaining the Authorities, Rights, and Liberties, referred to the States respectively, or to the people [emphasis added]. ”— James Madison, Draft of the Virginia Resolutions - December 1798.

Finally, note that the Supreme Court has clarified in general that powers not delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the power to regulate immigration in this example, are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

73 posted on 12/03/2014 9:45:40 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10; All

Correction to previous post. Although I put that Clause 9 was repealed, it was only Clause 1 of that section that was effectively repealed.


74 posted on 12/03/2014 9:47:01 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
Clause 1 of Section 9 of Article I dealt with slave trading

"Miogration" means means "migration." Slaves don't migrate. Slaves are imported. You can't just redfine or ignore the words you don't like. That is typical leftist bullshit.

Jefferson did not write the Constitution. He was in France at the time.

The Aliens Act was passed in 1798, which was before 1808.

You quote section 4 of the Kentucky resolution, but you leave out section 5, which specifically notes that "migration", means "migration." Americans back then weren't quite as keen as you are on lying about the plain meaning of simple English words.

Madison's quote from the Virginia Resolution is accurate for the year 1798, when it was written. It would not be accurate in 1808 or 2014.

Finally, note that your lies about the U.S. Constitution and the English language here compromise your credibility in any related matter.

Hope this helps.

75 posted on 12/03/2014 10:12:16 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: bestintxas

Politically speaking, this is a hanging curve on the middle of the plate.


76 posted on 12/03/2014 10:32:22 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Mariner

Exactly so.


77 posted on 12/03/2014 10:40:20 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: gogeo

Politically speaking, this is a hanging curve on the middle of the plate.


Exactly right. Unfortunately, Bonehead and Midge will make sure we strike out :(


78 posted on 12/03/2014 10:41:38 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long
I'm reminded of the farmer with the dancing pig.

What's noteworthy isn't that the pig dances poorly, it's that it can dance at all.

We're asking Boehner and McConnell to do that for which they're not suited.

It's painful to watch.

79 posted on 12/03/2014 10:54:01 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Plummz; All

The wording of the Constitution’s Clause 1 of Section 9 is strained, imo, because slavery was a divisive issue at the Constitutional Convention.

If you had read the excerpts from Jefferson’s and Madison’s writings, you would see that they claimed that the power to regulate immigration is not a constitutionally delegated power regardless what you are claiming about Clause 1 of Section 9.


80 posted on 12/03/2014 10:55:24 AM PST by Amendment10
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