To: conservatism_IS_compassion
“If there are enough votes to pass the bill, how can there not be enough votes to pass the rule? Does the rule require a supermajority???”
No. But just like cloture in the senate, conservatives can defeat the bill by defeating the rule, because as the article said, democrats don’t vote against the rule (though I suppose they could).
The point is to not let these congressmen hide behind procedural tactics, to get legislation passed while pretending to be against it.
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12/10/2014 6:59:32 AM PST by
cotton1706
(ThisRepublic.net)
To: cotton1706
If there are enough votes to pass the bill, how can there not be enough votes to pass the rule? Does the rule require a supermajority???
No. But just like cloture in the senate, conservatives can defeat the bill by defeating the rule, because as the article said, democrats dont vote against the rule (though I suppose they could).
Right, but let's say 20 Rs vote no, but 25 Ds are gonna say yes. If that passes the bill, how would those same Rs saying no on the rule force it down? Especially if, as you suggest, the Ds all vote yes on the rule? You're guaranteed more D votes for the rule, so I would think the better chances of stopping the bill would be the actual vote, as less D yeses (yesi?) on the vote (than the rule) means you need fewer R nos (noes?) on the vote than on the rule.
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