[SoConPubbie]

After suffering through 8 years of Obama, I don’t care any more, and it is arguable he is eligible.

B.S.

Whether or not he is eligible is defined by the Constitution, US Laws, and/or Supreme Court rulings on the matter.

I defy you to present one instance from any of those three sources of truth that come anywhere close to defining "Natural Born" as requiring 2 US Citizens at birth.

You won't, because you can't, because it doesn't exist.

Not arguable in the least.

End of argument, period.

[Defiant]

You sure are sensitive about the issue, for being so self-assured. You go on the attack against someone who wants Ted Cruz to be President, says he doesn't care about the issue any more, and only concedes to the "natural born" crowd that their position is "arguable". Arguable is a term of art among those who practice law, and more importantly in your case, who understand it. The position of those who believe you need two citizens as parents is undeniably "arguable". You can go back to original intent and the understanding of "natural born" to argue their side. You can also argue from the distinction in the Constitution between citizens and natural born citizens.

The only question is which position is stronger. I am not sure which position is stronger, but after 8 years in which a halfrican has set the precedent, and no one had the balls to take the case and no lower court would permit standing to decide the case, I no longer really care. Obama has set the precedent. Legally, it remains an open issue which has never been faced by the Supreme Court, because we have never had a President who was not unquestionably natural born before.

I am for Cruz 100 percent. I have no doubts about his loyalties to this country. However, I do have concerns about the divided loyalty of some persons who have a parent who is a citizen of another country at the time they are born. I know many people who were born citizens, but who have one or two immigrant parents, and who would be affected in their foreign policy because of their family background. I would be happy if the issue was clarified in the event an Article V convention is ever held. If not, well, as I said, Obama has set the precedent, and that is that. I would not be surprised to see Democrats litigate on this issue, and have better success getting the courts to take up the case. They will come up with some distinction, no doubt. Democrats have no shame nor consistency.

I do like how you argue, though. End of argument, period.

Reminds me of Obama talking about global warming.