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To: ifinnegan
I'll make this really simple for you. The private sector in China today accounts for about 60-70% of its GDP, depending on whose estimates you want to believe (World Bank vs. CIA vs. various other sources ). Under Mao, the contribution of the private sector to China's GDP was effectively 0.

Now, show me some evidence that the private sector in China under Mao was what it is today before calling me a liar. As to the argument that their private sector is "not really" private because of all of their bureaucracy, regulations, subsidies, price/wage controls, and other market distortions created by the state, I agree. Similar market distortions exist in the US and they exist severalfold more in many European countries and in Latin America (Mexico being a prime example). Market distortions and crony capitalism are not equivalent to Communism, unless you wish to claim that most of the world is "Communist."

192 posted on 12/17/2014 10:27:26 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

You think in the 1950’s China didn’t have any shops?

You spew forth lies.

You admit your lies but take the admission as a dismissal.

Eg, they aren’t Communist, just authoritarian.

Eg, They are all private companies, but they aren’t really private, but so what?

Your argument makes no sense. You argue China is “authoritarian”. Your argument then is that Cuban should be like China, thus continue to be authoritarian, just like China.

Makes no sense. why would you want to do that?

My question to you is why are you such a CCP propagandist?


199 posted on 12/17/2014 10:48:29 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ek_hornbeck
You are playing this weird word game 放屁 about what is or is not Communism to downplay Chinese Communist despotism that still exists.

The leaders of China are Marxist, through and through and instill Marxist thought in to the populace. Communism is not a cartoon of everything is free with no business ever being done, as you try to use as a distortive straw man.

The Marxist view of the oppressed and oppressor, the victim and victimizer as dominant paradigm is a hallmark of Communism and is strong in China. It is used as a weapon (same way liberals try to use it here).

China, the eternal victim country has the superior morality and right to behave and demand anything they want. this is communist thought through and through.

You somehow think it is OK to label it not communist, so therefore it is acceptable. Even if we were to accept your labeling, that doesn't make it right or acceptable.

For example, I do think the label National Socialist fits very well for China now with all the implications of that term.

201 posted on 12/17/2014 11:00:32 AM PST by ifinnegan
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