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“Unbroken”: Angelina Jolie’s great (and boring) blow for Hollywood feminism
Salon ^ | December 26, 2014 | Andrew O'Hehir

Posted on 12/27/2014 6:33:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Lazamataz

Your dam has a lawn?


161 posted on 12/28/2014 6:19:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: jonrick46

I was thinking of the Warsaw Ghetto. There a small number of Jews tied up 36 German officers and 2,054 men. It is estimated that 300 German soldiers were killed.

The men in these Japanese camps were so brutalized, I am surprised that they just didn’t turn on their captors and attempt to exterminate as many Japanese as possible.


162 posted on 12/28/2014 6:42:24 PM PST by wintertime
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To: verga

I’m reading the book and just got to chapter 34. I saw Franklin Graham on Greta last night and got the impression that the movie ends when he comes home. Graham said that there’s a documentary that covers his conversion, work with Billy Graham and then his work with troubled youth. That’s the movie I want to see.


163 posted on 12/28/2014 7:31:32 PM PST by Mercat (Merry Christmas to all my freeper friends)
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To: jonrick46

[[Too much was devoted to the tedious time in the life boat after their B-24 crashes at sea (why was there no emergency radio provided?)]]

I don’t know, maybe for the same reason that decent, working engines weren’t provided? I’m thinking that WWII-era radios were large and clunky, and that equipping every liferaft with one might have been prohibitive with respect to cost and weight.

Anyway, here is the operator’s manual for a B24. I didn’t see anything about an emergency radio in it.

https://books.google.com/books?id=hu1F9PTWG28C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

[[During the opening ceremony, Zamperini and a Japanese athlete were shown nodding at each other. The Japanese athlete was the prison camp tormentor, Mutsuhiro “The Bird” Watanabe! What? Later in the prison camp, out trots “The Bird” and nothing is made about the Olympics encounter.]]

Watanabe didn’t compete in the 1936 Olympics and the actor that played the Japanese athlete wasn’t the same actor that played Watanabe. Source: IMDB

Someone else will have to address your questions about the coal operation.


164 posted on 12/28/2014 7:40:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: MomwithHope

I saw it on Christmas as well. Although Zamperini live an extraordinary life, Angelina missed many opportunities to make the movie live up to those experiences. The movie was a long and some sequences could have been cut after the first showing. Relating more info about Zamperini’s interactions with his fellow POWs would have been helpful and showing more of what the other prisoners went through would have been good. It’s possible that the recounting the POWs true feelings about their captors would not go over well in such a PC world, even though this was during the war and we did hate the enemy.


165 posted on 12/28/2014 7:41:11 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: RWB Patriot

The abuse depicted in this movie doesn’t live up to what went on in the PI, it appears. But it is a decent movie. I believe it’s PG-13 so the violence is toned down.


166 posted on 12/28/2014 7:43:03 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: jonrick46

More about liferaft equipment (it WAS an interesting question).

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/06/26/outfitted-and-equipped-in-history-louis-zamperinis-life-raft/

“When Zamperini’s B-24 went down in the shark-infested Pacific Ocean, he and two crewmates (pilot Russell Allen “Phil” Phillips and Francis “Mac” McNamara) had to survive with only the supplies that had been stashed in the pockets of a pair of small life rafts. It wasn’t much. The military would soon add many more pieces of essential equipment to these emergency rafts — sun tarpaulin for shade, bailing bucket, mast and sail, sea anchor, sun ointment, first aid kit, puncture plugs, flashlight, fishing tackle, jackknife, scissors, whistle, compass, Gibson Girl radio transmitter, and even religious pamphlets for morale. But Louie, Mac, and Phil would not enjoy the benefits of these future additions. They had no knife, almost no food, and no navigation equipment whatsoever.”


167 posted on 12/28/2014 7:45:14 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Rummyfan

In 2005, I spoke to the gentleman who was a ground crew chief for my late dad’s England-based B-17 bomb group base. He told me two interesting things: 1) That Stalin stopped working on the bomb after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and 2) Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved close to a million Allied lives. I believe him.


168 posted on 12/28/2014 7:46:20 PM PST by bootless ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth."~RWR)
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To: Larry Lucido

I was very surprised to see the lack of emergency preparation for these flight crews. I read that the B-24 Liberator had a center-line ventral catwalk just nine inches wide making it almost impossible for the flight crew and nose gunner to get from the flight deck to the rear when wearing parachutes.

You seem to have a real insight into what went on.


169 posted on 12/28/2014 9:43:05 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Larry Lucido
The "Gibson Girl" SCR-578 emergency transmitter was built in 1942. Louis Zamperini's B-24 crashed in 1943. Here is a photo of the Gibson Girl in opertion:

It is curious why Zamperini's B-24 wasn't equipped with such an emergency radio.

170 posted on 12/28/2014 10:00:50 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

I’m learning a lot about this for the first time. A hand-powered, floating survival radio seems like it would be a must-have for water survival. Being that it weighed 33 pounds, I suppose that weight would be a factor. However, those bombers carried way more than that in bomb tonnage.


171 posted on 12/28/2014 11:14:13 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Mercat
I’m reading the book and just got to chapter 34. I saw Franklin Graham on Greta last night and got the impression that the movie ends when he comes home. Graham said that there’s a documentary that covers his conversion, work with Billy Graham and then his work with troubled youth. That’s the movie I want to see.

I would loved to have seen this as a three part miniseries on Television.

Part one His youth and the Olympics.

Part two the war experience up to the liberation of the camps.

Part three post war focusing on his redemption.

But no one asked my opinion.

172 posted on 12/29/2014 3:15:49 AM PST by verga
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To: jonrick46
It is curious why Zamperini's B-24 wasn't equipped with such an emergency radio. In the book it states that the Army was equipping the new planes and retrofitting older planes.
173 posted on 12/29/2014 3:19:43 AM PST by verga
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To: kidd
My son and I watched it Saturday. I was almost dissuaded from seeing it after all the negative reviews here. Overall, I found it decent, though lacking depth.

Having recently read Tears in the Darkness: The Story of the Bataan Death March and Its Aftermath, the portrayal of Japanese cruelty fell utterly short of the horror that these men endured. A PG13 rating is no excuse for downplaying the utter inhumanity of the Japanese POW experience.

The struggles these men faced returning home after experiencing the depths of depravity was the story. Like Ira James, the hero's welcome they received only increased their survivor's guilt and exacerbated their PTSD. Most never recovered. People are not comic book heros and world war is not a black and white battle between good and evil; they are flawed human beings who struggle to make sense of a world gone mad. The most vivid lesson from all the POW accounts that I have read is that many who died simply lost the will to live and those who made it found a reason to live. There were the faintest glimmers of this is the movie, but nothing that a general audience would catch.

The old English teachers adage, "show, don't tell'," was usurped in this movie. It was replaced with, "Please, tell me something!" Ultimately, the movie's problems are more of an indictment of current society 's shallowness than a simple cinematic failure. Our society as a whole is (quasi) illiterate, emotionally dysfunctional and spiritually lost. One could describe the Mona Lisa as a picture of a woman without eyebrows, but is hardly does justice to the topic.

The paltry two-line reference to Louis's faith and his reconciliation with his captors was less than trite. I found the real life footage at the end of the movie to be the best part. Given the man's incredible life story, the shallow treatment of his character and his faith that drove his eventual recovery is inexcusable. I hope you are correct and that many will read the book. Maybe it will prompt some to seek the Truth.

174 posted on 12/29/2014 4:52:38 AM PST by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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To: rabidralph

I’m just 4 chapters into reading the book so it’s hard to comment.


175 posted on 12/29/2014 5:15:01 AM PST by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: virgil
I think maybe that dropping the bomb on Japan may have had something to do with Russia. Russia was getting ready to jump in against Japan and grab up Japanese land

Roosevelt and Stalin agreed that Russia would enter the Pacific Theater 90 days after VE Day, whenever that might be (at Yalta...).This was one agreement that Stalin adhered to.

176 posted on 12/29/2014 5:58:13 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: jonrick46

Thanks for your comments. I did find the life raft sequence tedious and the POW experience was too low-key. Maybe someone else will do the story right and get to his life after war. However, this guy lived a life worthy of a mini-series. I did not know that Bird was the other Olympian. It’s a shame that so many significant details were not brought out in the movie.


177 posted on 12/29/2014 5:20:52 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: verga

I read the book and saw the movie. It’s a fine movie, and makes no difference who directed it. Something tells me the criticism of the movie is mainly because of who directed it. I am no fan of Brad Pitt, the atheist little creep, but his wife is a good actress, who was brought up Christian and hopefully one day will return to the faith. In the book there is mention of Pappy Boyington, who was a POW in the same camp as Zamperini. I didn’t see this in the movie. I have always thought a movie about Colonel Boyington’s time as a POW would make a hell of a movie. If Zamperini was put through hell because of his notoriety as a track star, you can imagine the hell that Pappy Boyington went through for shooting down all those ZEROS! I read an interview by him a few years ago and he was asked about his time as a POW. He said it was not exactly a picnic but it probably added two years to his life. The interview said how was that possible. Pappy said “well hell it was two years I couldn’t drink”!!


178 posted on 12/30/2014 6:02:29 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam")
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To: rabidralph
The other Olympian was not the "Bird." It did look like him. The Japanese Olympic Team member was played by Kent Lee. From the side he looks like Takamasa Ishihara. Here is Kent Lee:

The "Bird" as played by Takamasa Ishihara:


179 posted on 12/30/2014 8:06:50 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Thanks for the correction. I figured that would have been a very weird coincidence.


180 posted on 12/30/2014 4:27:48 PM PST by rabidralph
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