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Charlie Hebdo cartoonist reveals terrorists threatened to murder her toddler unless she let them in
Daily Mail ^ | January 7, 2015 | Peter Allen

Posted on 01/07/2015 11:30:11 AM PST by maggief

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To: Travis McGee

It’s impossible to know what is the right thing to do.

Terrorists confront you with guns, making demands. You have a split second to decide if you give them a code (not sure of what they’re going to do) or let them murder your child.

Would you tell them to go ahead and kill YOUR child? I can’t imagine any parent making any other decision in such a situation.


61 posted on 01/07/2015 12:09:21 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: DesertRhino

So you would trade 12+ coworkers lives for your life and your child, okay.
How about 20? 50? 100?


62 posted on 01/07/2015 12:09:23 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DesertRhino

“Give it a rest” my ass.

That unarmed mom was the gatekeeper to the entire building.


63 posted on 01/07/2015 12:09:24 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want to say.)
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To: papertyger

Lots of people would stand up and protect others. Very few would expect a mother to offer her child to be murdered to save others. Its an even bet that the people who died in that office knew the girl and would not have wanted to live at the expense of her death.

Today isn’t the day to be a dick.


64 posted on 01/07/2015 12:10:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I believe if they were aremed it wouldn’t have made much difference as they’d just use do a suicide bomber or car to accomplish their deed. They did hit them once before with a bomb. You’d think the paper administrators would have secured the building better after the first time rather than have a woman clerk at the door.


65 posted on 01/07/2015 12:10:32 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Well, en-demoned. Still, if the facility was hardened, it would take a lot more bother and risk on their part to do it. No sense in rolling out a virtual welcome mat, which the existing setup did.


66 posted on 01/07/2015 12:10:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, a terrible security plan. See #53.


67 posted on 01/07/2015 12:11:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PGR88

Sounds like the plan was a grenade that failed to open the door.


68 posted on 01/07/2015 12:11:12 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: caww

They’d try perhaps, but with more remoteness required comes more difficulty. It should not be made easy.


69 posted on 01/07/2015 12:11:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Let’s admit it was a TERRIBLE security plan, see my #53.


70 posted on 01/07/2015 12:11:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JudyinCanada
It’s impossible to know what is the right thing to do.

No, it's not impossible: it's just not easy.

71 posted on 01/07/2015 12:11:55 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want to say.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yep, you can have my life but not my kids’ lives. I would have done the same thing probably.


72 posted on 01/07/2015 12:12:01 PM PST by skippyjonjones
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To: papertyger

True, but I am pretty sure I can speak for any mother.


73 posted on 01/07/2015 12:13:19 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: DesertRhino
Its an even bet that the people who died in that office knew the girl and would not have wanted to live at the expense of her death.

It's not her death you moron: it's their way of life.

74 posted on 01/07/2015 12:14:11 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want to say.)
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To: DesertRhino

Where did you read about a grenade exploding at the door? I have not read anywhere yet that they fired a shot before getting to their primary target, the 2nd floor office.

From what I have gleaned, the plan depended on a silent entry. The “weak link” was letting a mom with a kid know the security code. They may have watched her return from lunch every day. If so, they get an F- for their security plan, considering they had already been bombed, and were a major terrorist target.


75 posted on 01/07/2015 12:14:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Would it not be a simple software upgrade in one of these digicode security systems to allow a person to type an extra digit that sounds a silent alarm to the upstairs and to police? Door opens just fine, and then all the silent notifications are made.

Suggest we start implementing that here.

76 posted on 01/07/2015 12:15:22 PM PST by Lazamataz (With friends like Boehner, we don't need Democrats. -- Laz A. Mataz, 2015)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
..."welcome mat, which the existing setup did"...

Exactly........not to bright of them as I see it...especially in light of the fact they'd been bombed before.


77 posted on 01/07/2015 12:15:52 PM PST by caww
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To: DesertRhino

Yeah, we’re “dicks” for pointing out the obvious. The terror plan relied on that “weak link” with a child and the code guarding the door.

I’m just amazed how many folks right off the bat admit they’d trade 12+ lives for their own and child.

Come on, tell us your number. 20? 50? 100?


78 posted on 01/07/2015 12:15:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DesertRhino
Today isn’t the day to be a dick.

Concur. Let's give it a rest. In the meantime, counter-propaganda organizations like this could use help with their security plans. I don't know why this wasn't a near total telecommute operation, frankly.

79 posted on 01/07/2015 12:16:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Travis McGee

I agree.

There should have been a way to send a warning (second button, addition to the security code) that there was danger about to enter.


80 posted on 01/07/2015 12:16:22 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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