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The West Has Putin in a Box But Refuses to Pull the Trigger
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-west-has-putin-in-a-box-but-refuses-to-pull-the-trigger/ ^ | 14 Jan 15 | Paul Gregory

Posted on 01/15/2015 4:33:31 AM PST by elhombrelibre

The Western world has yet to figure out what to do with Vladimir Putin.

He has taken parts of Georgia, Moldova, and most notably, Ukraine, by force. He ignores treaties and diplomatic conventions. Angela Merkel of Germany claims he lives in an alternate universe in which white is black and blue is green. How should Europe and the United States respond to Putin’s aggression? That is the question.

According to the “cornered rat” theory, Vladimir Putin is more dangerous with his back to the wall. This theory says he is far from finished, despite sanctions, a collapsing economy, and international isolation. We know for a fact that Putin does not back down when faced with adversity. He doubled down on repression against the mass demonstrations of December 2011. He expanded his hybrid war into east Ukraine despite world outrage over Crimean annexation. Weapon and troop deliveries were not ramped down after MH17. Putin invaded Ukraine with regular troops in August as his proxy forces faced defeat in the Donbass. He has not given an inch at the bargaining tables of Geneva and Minsk, despite crippling sanctions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: putin; ukrainecrisis
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1 posted on 01/15/2015 4:33:31 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Same old West has no resolve issue...


2 posted on 01/15/2015 4:35:42 AM PST by Netz
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To: elhombrelibre

I have no love for Putin, but it seems to me the financial elite are orchestrating a war against him - and he is a far less menacing enemy than others, in these times.


3 posted on 01/15/2015 4:35:53 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Bingo.


4 posted on 01/15/2015 4:41:42 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Even Glenn Beck himself has pointed out this week in his three-part series on the threat of Russia that there are extreme nationalists in the country that would make things worse if Putin were to be removed from power.

Peter Hitchens is worried in his columns about a war hysteria against Russia building and also points out that Putin is bad, but there are worse alternatives.

As for the events in Ukraine that began about a year ago in Maidan Square in Kiev, it was not in Putin’s interest to start shooting at protestors in the street during his showcase Olympics in Sochi.

If we remember our history even Adolf Hitler loosened up on Jews and backed down on his hostility to make the Berlin Olympics in 1936 look good to the world.

The events in Ukraine that transpired early last year were orchestrated by anti-Russian forces, maybe in Ukraine, maybe from outside Ukraine or a combination of both.

Somebody wants a war between Russia, the EU and the US.

John McCain is one of the guys who beats the war drums on Russia, not to mention the Islamic State, so maybe we should look at who gives him campaign money.


5 posted on 01/15/2015 4:46:08 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: elhombrelibre

What trigger? what gun?

The truth seems to be that Putin is a success in his annexation of Crimea. The question remaining is the cost of sanctions adequate to induce leaving Ukraine alone and leaving the Crimea?

It would appear not

I continue to believe that Putin’s gambit in Ukraine was just a feint to allow himself to be chased out so the western powers could claim victory. Meanwhile Crimea is annexed and swept under the rug


6 posted on 01/15/2015 4:47:59 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: elhombrelibre

Pooty Poot has plenty of proxies through which he can act to our extreme detriment.


7 posted on 01/15/2015 4:51:10 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: bert
Well, Putin and his proxies certainly agree with you. They're plundering Crimea with the same alacrity that their Soviet fathers plundered all of Central and Eastern Europe during the communist halcyon days. See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/world/seizing-assets-in-crimea-from-shipyard-to-film-studio.html?_r=0

I realize you may think they have it coming to them for having strayed outside the Putin Empire since 1954.

8 posted on 01/15/2015 5:01:05 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: bert
"Since Russia annexed the Black Sea peninsula 10 months ago, more than $1 billion in real estate and other assets have been stripped from their former owners, according to estimates from the owners and lawyers. The assets include banks, hotels, shipyards, farms, gas stations, the major bakery, a vital dairy and even the storied lots of Yalta Film Studio, which 50 years ago made this now shabby seaside resort the Hollywood of the Soviet Union.

Property seizures on such a sweeping scale have not occurred since the Russian Revolution, owners said. Many have argued in court that the confiscations violate a clause in the Russian Constitution mandating compensation when the government takes property. But given the triumphant mood in Moscow about the annexation, the owners expressed little hope for redress.

“If you act like the Communists in 1917, and take everything away, you should just say it,” said Mr. Kuzmenko, speaking by telephone from Kiev. “If there is no compensation, it looks like robbery.”"

This one way to keep the kleptocrats in Putinstan happy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/world/seizing-assets-in-crimea-from-shipyard-to-film-studio.html?_r=0

9 posted on 01/15/2015 5:02:58 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: bert

Why do we care about Crimea? Did we want it to fall into the hands of encroaching Islamunism?


10 posted on 01/15/2015 5:06:00 AM PST by Usagi_yo (It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Actually, I’m neutral on the subject. What happens in Russia/Crimea is not my affair.

I observe and report my finding, taking no side

My gut feeling is that poor old Mother Russia has a cancer that Putin will never really cure


11 posted on 01/15/2015 5:07:20 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Denying the success of Putin is Europe’s way of whistling past the graveyard.

Russia is like Mexico which has just conquered and annexed Texas and is looking hard at California (Ukraine). Merkel is in the equivalent of Washington or Oregon. She wants a full out fight in the Ukraine like she’d like an ammonia enema.


12 posted on 01/15/2015 5:07:36 AM PST by anton
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To: elhombrelibre

Unless you know who will take his place I too would be hesitant and very careful about regime change. Recent history will bear this out.


13 posted on 01/15/2015 5:30:08 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: elhombrelibre
According to the “cornered rat” theory

Not so much cornered rat as verletzter Bär, and the Germans have a lot of experience with that.

14 posted on 01/15/2015 5:32:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Using that logic, no tyrants would ever be removed, not even Obama. Self government means regime change occurs on a frequent basis.
15 posted on 01/15/2015 5:33:40 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: anton
Merkel is in the equivalent of Washington or Oregon. She wants a full out fight in the Ukraine like she’d like an ammonia enema

And the Bundeswehr has burned all their maps showing roads to Kiev, with very good reason.

16 posted on 01/15/2015 5:34:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

The reoccuring reference actually comes from a part of the Putin myth that he produced when he was creating his life story to sell himself to the Russian people as the new Tsar/Stalin.


17 posted on 01/15/2015 5:40:23 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Jim Noble
See the documentary at the link and you'll see the myth of "the cornered" is explained.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/putins-way/

18 posted on 01/15/2015 5:55:30 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Russia is not part of Europe. Have Europeans forgotten this?

Vladimir Putin is nothing more than a blue-eyed Tatar ruler when the subject is democracy & human rights.


19 posted on 01/15/2015 5:56:34 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: Usagi_yo

Maybe after we get a republican prez we can join forces with Russia against the moslums....provided that Russia stops attacking its Christian neighbors.


20 posted on 01/15/2015 6:36:01 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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