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To: Regulator

The Bundesnachrictendienst (BND) is far better at surveillance than is given credit for. The USA is quite dependent on them right now due to the continued gutting of the CIA . . . not that Obama listens when he doesn’t feel like it, mind you. The Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV) is no joke either.


17 posted on 01/15/2015 11:10:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Hah. No, I don’t doubt the effectiveness of German intelligence. The STASI made the KGB look like a bunch of oafs...but you’re talking a lot of people potentially. There are 3 million Turks in Germany, suspect the number of recruits would be in the hundreds if not higher.

It’s a conceit of Western governments that they think they can keep a lid on organized insurgent groups within their own borders. There is this idea that it can be managed.

Which is crap, as evidenced by 9/11, the LAX shootings, Nidal Hasan, and the Tsarnaev Brothers proved.

Can’t say what the optimal answer is. If Germany wants to keep them in the corral, it better be a real one.


21 posted on 01/15/2015 11:22:42 AM PST by Regulator
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