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Analysts Predict a Russian Descent Into Madness
(PLUS: a Bloomberg article) The Moscow Times ^ | 18 Jan 15 | Ivan Nechepurenko

Posted on 01/20/2015 12:01:10 AM PST by elhombrelibre

President Vladimir Putin cannot afford at this point to reform the political system he has built up, as doing so would undermine his grip on power, a panel of political analysts said at the Gaidar Forum on Friday.

They went on to warn that without fundamental change, Russia risks an eventual descent into "revolutionary chaos." The panel, which consisted of several analysts known for their vocal criticism of Russian government policy, spoke before a packed audience.

Such heated political rhetoric may seem out of place at a high-level economic policy conference co-organized by the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration (RANEPA) and the Gaidar Institute for Economic Policy. But the final day of this year's forum was marked by departures from mainstream economics, with forays into everything from politics to education.

The political panel was moderated by Leonid Gozman, who has stood at the helm of some of Russia's most prominent liberal parties over the course of the past decade.

At one point Gozman asked the panel, which included seven Russian analysts and one American, to say something nice about the ruling elite. "We have to say something good about the government, or we won't be allowed to hold this session again next year," he said facetiously.

Rapid Deterioration

Jokes aside, the speakers had a tough time finding any silver linings in what they saw as the many challenges Russia is presently facing due to the decisions Putin has made during his 15 years as Russia's central political figure.

Most of the analysts agreed that Russia's political system will likely remain inert over the course of 2015, with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev expected to remain in his post. At the same time, the majority agreed that the system is fragile, and susceptible to rapid deterioration.

"We have entered a stage of fantastic instability," said Georgy Satarov, former aide to Russia's first President, Boris Yeltsin, and now an expert on political corruption in Russia.

According to Satarov, the current economic crisis may leave the government with only two options: launch dramatic political reforms or tighten the screws.

"The fact that everyday life in Russia is still stable prevents common people from understanding how fragile the political situation is," he said.

The second option — cracking down — could provoke widespread dissent, which could in turn propel Russia into "revolutionary chaos," Saratov said. "This is an absolutely realistic scenario," he urged.

Experts were divided on the question of where such revolutionary chaos could originate. Political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin, head of the Moscow-based Mercator political research group, suggested that momentum would likely start in Moscow, as the capital continues to grow increasingly gentrified and politically conscious in contrast to other Russian regions.

Nikolai Petrov, a political analyst with the Higher School of Economics, argued that such fervor could emerge in Chechnya, as its leader Ramzan Kadyrov grows increasingly independent and power-hungry.

"Kadyrov has 20,000 people that swore allegiance to him and Putin. In case there is a difficulty in Moscow, they would defend them," Petrov said. "Russia is hostage to the regime; the regime is hostage to Putin; while Putin is hostage to his decisions, which have left him without an exit strategy."

Perestroika Impossible

Tatiana Vorozheikina, a political scientist specializing in Latin American affairs, argued that fundamental political change remains an unlikely scenario for the foreseeable future in Russia, as such change would threaten the standing of the present-day political elite.

At the same time, she opined, the current structure is rooted in Putin. "I don't believe the regime can be preserved without Putin," said Vorozheikina. "The process of a negative selection among the elites did not leave anybody prominent and authoritative in the establishment, who would be able to assume power during the transition period."

Regardless of the likelihood of impending change, Vorozheikina argued that Russia's political power players are not primarily to blame for bringing about the country's current economic crisis.

Putin's Rating

Despite the panelists' conclusions on the Kremlin's hurdle-laden road ahead, it does not appear that Russia's economic downturn will necessarily force Putin's hand with regard to reforms. Recent statistics reveal that his approval ratings are no longer tied to the country's overall prosperity.

Poll results published last week by the independent Levada Center revealed that 55 percent of Russians would like to see Putin remain Russia's president after the next election in 2018. Tellingly, 54 percent of respondents said they see no alternative to Putin. The poll was conducted among 1,600 respondents with the margin of error not exceeding 3.4 percent.

According to Alexei Levinson, senior researcher at the Levada Center, approval of Putin and approval of the Russian leadership overall are two very different issues.

"Over the past 15 months, Putin has come to be seen as a symbolic and sacred figure who is not responsible for the economic situation in the country, but is responsible for the country's greatness," Levinson told the Gaidar Forum audience.

"The more Russians feel that they are threatened by the outside world, the more they will consolidate around Putin," he said.

Predictions and Advice

As the session drew to a close, Gozman asked the participants to offer words of advice to Putin, and to hypothesize about the coming year.

Most experts recommended that Putin introduce fair competition into the political system, in particular by allowing possible "successors" to emerge.

"Russia must find a mechanism that would introduce rotation into government … No regime can survive without rotation at the very top," said Timothy Colton, professor of government and Russian studies at Harvard and chairman of the university's department of government.

As for the coming year, most experts were grim, predicting that the crisis in Ukraine will likely escalate over the course of 2015, and that protest activity in Russia will likely remain small-scale and localized, even if it intensifies.

Gozman said that most of the last year's predictions failed to materialize, and that the prize — a bottle of booze — would therefore not be awarded to any of the panelists. However, next year's winner will get two bottles to distract from the dismal realities he or she correctly predicted this year — that is, if the Presidential Academy allows the same experts to hold such a panel again, he added.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: putin; russia
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1 posted on 01/20/2015 12:01:10 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

.....”The fact that everyday life in Russia is still stable prevents common people from understanding how fragile the political situation is”.....

Rather like is being done here and in other countries. Keeping the propaganda moving right along, coupled with phony statistics for the better informed, keeps the people blind to what might otherwise be mass revolt.....

Even when the people start being affected....it takes a long time for them to rise up as they believe their Government has the answers....just as here.


2 posted on 01/20/2015 12:06:51 AM PST by caww
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To: elhombrelibre
Here is a link to a Bloomberg story that helps explain how thoroughly Putin has corrupted the system and how for now that's his tool for remaining president for life.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-19/the-spanish-palace-that-is-not-quite-vladimir-putin-s

3 posted on 01/20/2015 12:07:03 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

...”His tool for remaining president for life”.....

Sounds like OBama’s plan for another four years!


4 posted on 01/20/2015 12:10:18 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Do you really think so?


5 posted on 01/20/2015 12:15:16 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

From the article...”Putin has come to be seen as a symbolic and sacred figure who is ‘not’ responsible for the economic situation in the country, but is responsible for the country’s greatness,”.... Levinson told the Gaidar Forum audience.....
“The more Russians feel that they are threatened by the outside world, the more ‘they will consolidate around Putin,” he said.

I believe this is true from reading Russians comments over the social networks and comments to articles on line. The population is defending him...like Obama’s followers are him.

I believe this is happening because the nations people throughout the world are primed for “cult” like leaders they can admire and get behind. Especially when the youth are so wired to technology and leave little time for anything but their minds fed with whatever is pushed over the internet.....this leaves populations ripe for a “King”.


6 posted on 01/20/2015 12:16:58 AM PST by caww
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To: elhombrelibre

If Putin really wanted to cement his legacy as something positive for Russia he would follow in the footsteps of Franco and restore the Monarchy.


7 posted on 01/20/2015 12:17:07 AM PST by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: elhombrelibre

Looks like the Russian people are in for another ride thru the septic system again.


8 posted on 01/20/2015 12:17:54 AM PST by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Both Obama and Putin are very much alike...and how they see their position as LEaders of their countries....their egos swim in popularity like a cult leader would....the difference is the system of government each is operating in....and the population mindset.

Our people are accustomed to “freedom” though quickly changing to resemble Russians in how they see government.

Russia’s population are accustomed to “Tzars” and barely grasp the idea of Democracy and understanding of. So they are more comfortable depending on the government.

So both nations populations are equally vulnerable to the dictates of a “leader”.


9 posted on 01/20/2015 12:24:38 AM PST by caww
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To: elhombrelibre
Are you sure this is on the level? Sounds like a joke at the end:

Gozman said that most of the last year's predictions failed to materialize, and that the prize — a bottle of booze — would therefore not be awarded to any of the panelists. However, next year's winner will get two bottles to distract from the dismal realities he or she correctly predicted this year — that is, if the Presidential Academy allows the same experts to hold such a panel again, he added.

10 posted on 01/20/2015 12:37:21 AM PST by No One Special
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11 posted on 01/20/2015 1:02:06 AM PST by EEGator
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To: caww

If he goes for another 4 yrs - we will never be rid of him.


12 posted on 01/20/2015 1:03:59 AM PST by Nailbiter
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He won't go another 4 years...in fact at the rate he's moving now he may not last the ones remaining.....he's hit the paranoid stage of a Narcissist....from time to time you can see it....that's why he has to golf and give plenty speeches and vacations away....it's the only way they'll be able to prevent him from a blowout....is just to keep him occupied when he isn't creating a crisis of some sort....which his ego feeds off and he's driven by.
13 posted on 01/20/2015 1:17:20 AM PST by caww
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To: Thurifer the Censer

That’s an interesting thought, but I don’t know that there are any Romanovs left. The party Putin served so well murdered quite a few of them so the bloodline may have died out.


14 posted on 01/20/2015 1:18:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: caww

I agree with you that Putin’s and Obama’s supporters have a godlike reverence for their leaders that is irrational and ignorant of facts.


15 posted on 01/20/2015 1:19:46 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: EEGator

The TRUE BELIEVER is an excellent book on mass movements, a seminal work.


16 posted on 01/20/2015 1:21:27 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: caww

I would so love to see him have a blowout on National TV.

I can dream


17 posted on 01/20/2015 1:26:56 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: elhombrelibre

It is outstanding...read it a couple times.


18 posted on 01/20/2015 1:31:41 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator
The Book looks interesting....
I've been viewing a lot of Hitlers videos, and those from the Holocaust....also about Hitlers men and their positions as well as dynamics among etc. You can see the masses move as "ordered"...and the "Tricks" the Nazi's used to fool the people....interesting that Obama and Holder use similar tactics....but then he is a Narcissist as Hitler was....and how easily they can rise their "people" regardless of oppsoing "facts".

I think technology has isolated everyone so much now there's no sense ‘of community’ at all. I began seeing this during my lunch hour at work....Before everyone had cell phones people use to engage with each other. They don't now.

It's so sad to see everybody around you “immersed” in their phones regardless if or not they're actually speaking or texting....they're stressed trying to find someone to engage with on their phone and you can 'easily' see it.

So with this 'isolation' they are really ripe for the pickings of whatever “hero” might make them feel significant....and it doesn't take much to rise them up on the social networks. They're like little robots.

19 posted on 01/20/2015 1:36:51 AM PST by caww
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To: Nailbiter
If you know what to look for you see mini-ones along the way. No doubt his staff see these with some frequency. But a Narcissist will quickly stroke feathers if he has to in order to remain balanced.

Even BO’s vocabulary is showing it more and more...he really is an empty suit and it takes a whole lot of mental energy for him to maintain his facade. That's why he's always playing the “someone elses fault” card....it points away from him when he's feeling unstable....or loosing his bases support.....when that doesn't work because people are wise to him..he'll withdraw, again because his greatest fear is he'll be exposed.

Remember for awhile we didn't hear much from him or about him....when he's ultimately loosing he'll withdraw, not out of embarrassment...but because we're not worthy of his presence in his mind. Typical Narcissistic trait. We've all seen threads with Narcissistic traits Obama has shown clearly....the key is what do they do when backed into a corner...and that is why he's dangerous. IMO...there are 'plenty' of Congressmen who know what we've got in Obama and also the danger....that's why they brought up the 25th Amendment...He is unstable and they know it....but he also has the "black bag"....and a Muslim team surrounding him now.

20 posted on 01/20/2015 1:52:21 AM PST by caww
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