Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles

New York Times ^ | 1/30/2015 | JACK HEALY and MICHAEL PAULSON

[Jan_Sobieski]

Sure, I understand. Thanks for clarification.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

[Kickass Conservative]

Does that mean I can start running the Country again? LOL

I have a lot of work to do. Any guess on what size clothes Obama and Hillary wear? I want to be sure they are comfortable in their Orange Jump Suits in Prison.

Have a good evening.

[A Navy Vet]

"The vaccination rates in Mexico and the US are almost identical thus meaning that the probability that an illegal immigrant child from Mexico has approximately the same chance of having measles as America child."

I really doubt your statement - show me empirical evidence. There is little agruement that 3rd world children have more diseases than the USA. Mexico is 3rd world, so is Africa with all their diseases. Remember, ten's of thousands of children just came up from Central America. If you believe they had immunizations then you are beyond discussion.

[Jan_Sobieski]

O.K.now we know the basic level of your arguements....bat eaters...Veeeeeeeery dangerous...or not.

Yes, to people who actually research, this is a leading theory of the cause of Ebola. But I would not expect this level of erudition from you.

[terycarl]

I disagree with you.

I'll just bet that you do...it is because the kids that you are jeopardizing aren't yours....wait a minute...some of them were, but what the hell, let nature take its course and as for the neighbor kids....oh well....

[Jan_Sobieski]

I agree! I will celebrate that day...and the day that Islam/Allah are formally renounced by the world (and Muhammed - pig excrement be upon him)!

[goodnesswins]

Has anyone here heard of a recommendation some parents are following....something about getting vacs over a several day period instead of all in the same day....Laura Ingraham had someone on last week who talked about this....just a thought.

I’m a 50’s baby....had German Measles, 3 spots of chickenpox, and got a Polio shot when I was about 5 years old. Also got small pox vac at some point. Never got the Mumps. I believe SOME vacs are good, but these days TOO MANY are given especially to young children in a short period of time.

[Kickass Conservative]

Me too, LOL...

[MarchonDC09122009]

University study indicating established MMR vaccination regiment cause neurological damage in primate infants:

Influence of pediatric vaccines on amygdala growth and opioid ligand binding in rhesus macaque infants: A pilot study  http://www.ane.pl/pdf/7020.pdf

http://vactruth.com/2012/04/29/monkeys-get-autism/

Vaccine Pharma cartel and establishment willing to sacrifice / do criminal acts in the name of producing very profitable vaccines:
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-vaccine-empire-on-trial-in-india/

[Jan_Sobieski]

Agree...I would consider some vaccinations for older children whose immune systems are mature. Prayer would always go first.

[A Navy Vet]

"God designed a permanent immunity ..and I think that is the way mans immune system was designed.. Many moons ago .. I waited until my kids had to have them to enter school .. and I was not a happy camper then. I have very strong feelings that the MMR should be withheld until puberty or later.. to give them an opportunity to be have natural immunity

Puhleeze! Really? God and natural immune systems to grow stronger as children age? Pfft. Guess Polio is not included. Ever hear of Jonas Salk? He stopped the polio scourge with his vaccine for our children. Ever heard of "iron lungs?". His vaccine did away with those. Ever hear of the bubonic plague that wiped out half of Europe? Ever hear of the Malaria? Sheesh, you would really subject your children to diseases that can be prevented?

What's wrong with you people who won't vaccinate their children?

[terycarl]

And pretty much EVERY kid I went to school with got the measles, mumps, and chickenpox. And not one had any kind of serious problem with them. It was just considered part of childhood -

I was a little before your time..I had measles in the early 1940's and they posted a Quarantined sign on our door...no one in, no one out.

The total number of kids that you and I combined went to school with had to be miniscule....however, when you read statistics you will note that THOUSANDS of kids died from these "childhood diseases"

[terycarl]

Is it possible that my children could get a disease, yes. But I will still pray first and medicine 2nd...

Oh good, a Christian science observer........sigh

[MarchonDC09122009]

You and similar minded individuals are being proven correct.
The US pharma cartel has co-opted the medical establishment, forcing an insane amount of vaccinations on infants thru toddlers.
European vaccination regiments are no where as aggressive as those currently in practice in the USA.

[Mercat]

I too had whooping cough. I think it still at 66 affects my respiratory system. I had both kinds of measles and chicken pox, all when I was a teenager. No mumps. All I got for days was Campbell’s chicken noodle soup and saltine crackers. I still can’t stand it. The lady next door to us had polio. We got that shot and one for small pox. I think I can still find the scar. I’m pretty sure that from what she said, my aunt had small pox as a very young child. Since I turned 60 I have had the shingles vaccination and the pneumonia vaccination. I’m going back in for the new pneumonia vaccine. Anyone who had chickenpox and is 60 or over absolutely should get the shingles vaccination. It’s a horrible disease.

[A Navy Vet]

"This year’s flu vaccine is basically worthless because the scientists guessed wrong and the flu virus that mutated isn’t affected by this flu shot. But millions of people ran out and got one for themselves and their kids."

True, this year's flu shots have been only 23% effective, because they mutate. However, you are comparing apples and oranges. Vaccines against polio, small pox, mumps, measles, and others have been highly effective over decades. Roll the dice for your children and hopefully they won't contract the above.

Personal note: I had my children vaccinated against the above diseases and neither one got any of them.

[goat granny]

all 5 of my children had measles and they are now in their 50’s. Big deal

[PieterCasparzen]

Americans’ bodily systems are being destroyed through their diet, medicines and lack of breast feeding of babies.

But they’re brainwashed into believing whatever their doctor and the TV tells them.

I’ve seen it firsthand.

[mom of young patriots]

“I’d rather have the real diseases and get forever immunity anyway.”

There is a health risk associated with getting those diseases. They are not benign. They can put some people in the hospital and even kill them.

My step father had the mumps as a child and was sterile as an adult. He was told it was a direct result. My uncle had polio as a child and is barely able to walk as an adult. The flu epidemic of 1918 killed my grandmother’s grandfather and 2 year old brother.

Also there is the lost productivity associated with missed school days and missed work days. It does take a toll. I vaccinated my kids (with trepidation and after extensive research) and my sister did not. We both had our reasons and neither of us is judgmental of the other for our choices.

This is not an attempt to advocate either for or against mass vaccination, but I do feel that it is important to keep the cost of having the diseases sweep through the population in perspective. We haven’t had to pay that price in a long time thanks to vaccination programs, so maybe we have forgotten.