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To: goldstategop

“This is not your grandfather’s Red army.”

A point I have been trying to make since this all began.

The Russians haven’t been sitting still for the last 12 years. They have been upgrading hardware and bringing new systems online, and adding a whole bunch of tech.

Cooperative programs with China have produced real results, and the “Decentralization of Command from officers to NCO’s has been going on longer than that.

They don’t have the tech or amounts anymore to take us on heads-up and “Win”, that would require nukes. It’s all about forcing “political” solutions.


50 posted on 02/03/2015 9:11:42 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Russia is nothing like what they used to be, they still depend on poorly trained, poorly equipped 1 year draftees.

They have a few small units that they have been trying to train and equip but you are over blowing their overall effectiveness.

The Old war machine had 7 Airborne divisions and massive amounts of Air Assault and bridge building units and tank Divisions, a military built on attack and conquest that doesn’t exist today. If they attack NATO, their military will be quickly destroyed, leaving Russia exposed to it’s internal and Eastern problems.

Russia isn’t anywhere close to the world power that it used to be, some estimates have their actual Army size at about 244,000 men, and in the attack against the West, they would be destroyed pretty easily.


53 posted on 02/03/2015 9:19:56 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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