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To: ansel12

Yeah, Russia is a former shell of itself. On a conventional basis, I think even the U.S. Army of the Vietnam era, circa 1968-1970, could take Russia of 2014, even with the equipment we had in 1968-1970. Still the crumpler is that thy have nukes and can still tear us up pretty bad. Even so, the invasion of another sovereign nation is not to be taken lightly, we can’t go to war over it ourselves, but I think there are ways we can express our outrage and perhaps help out the Ukraine with materials. If I could magically wave my hand, I’d give the Ukraine 5000 M-60 tanks and 500 F-15’s. I think the mistake they made was to give up their nukes, at one time, the Ukraine was like the 3rd or 4th largest nuclear power in the world.


74 posted on 02/03/2015 10:55:21 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Nowhere Man

“I think the mistake they made was to give up their nukes, at one time, the Ukraine was like the 3rd or 4th largest nuclear power in the world.”

After the fall of the Soviet Union, a broke and already corrupt Ukraine became the world’s largest-ever arms bazaar. They were selling everything that wasn’t nailed down, and some things that were, to anybody with cash.

We moved to secure the nukes, in the fear that they would end up in muzzie hands, and spent BILLIONS for them, that disappeared into Ukraine’s cesspool of corruption.


76 posted on 02/03/2015 11:01:06 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Nowhere Man

Even the Army of the Vietnam war? I think it would vastly outclass the Russian Army.

As far as nukes, we all have nukes, and Russia didn’t want to use them to save their empire, they won’t be committing suicide by going out in a nuclear war now.

There is nothing that Russia or anyone in the world is doing, that would make want Russia to annihilate itself in nuclear war.

There is no nuclear standoff going on.


79 posted on 02/03/2015 11:09:18 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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