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Dr. Manny: Should Obama make vaccines mandatory for all children?
Fox News ^ | 1/30/2015 | Dr. Manny Alvarez

Posted on 02/13/2015 12:03:01 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

I am calling on the federal government to mandate vaccinations for all children, and to eliminate all of the silly loopholes that are creating chaos in so many communities throughout America. Vaccinations are not only about the individual, but they are also meant to protect the lives of others.

As we have seen over the past several weeks, measles, and other communicable diseases that were all but eradicated decades ago, are popping up across the country, and putting people’s lives in danger.

Basic childhood vaccines should be the legal requirement of every citizen in this country, except in the case of medical contraindications. However, those exclusions should only be granted by a physician or health care provider. It is not for the parent, or consumer advocate to offer an opinion that prevents a child from receiving a vaccination. All these opinions serve to do is confuse the caregiver and possibly even misinform them, which could have fatal implications for the child...

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It is not for the parent to offer an opinion that prevents a child from receiving a vaccination...

It is good to know that the omnipotent, omniscient, ever present, benevolent Government is doing what is best for children. Fear, or obscure data from obscure families, will never cause me to be herded into not getting vaccinations or doubt the State's ownership of my child in this important decision.

I will never buy into the tin-foil-hatters who think that our government would put corporate/government profit over the welfare of my child or conspiracy theorists who claim that people like John Holdren, Paul and Anne Ehrlich, and others want to cull our population.

I especially will never allow those religious nuts to sway me into praying to some "God in heaven" or trusting in religious scriptures like the following for my children's welfare...

Psalms 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. 2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: 3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

Psalms 91:5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

Deut 7:15 And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest , upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.

/s

1 posted on 02/13/2015 12:03:01 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I have been reading that some drug companies are making it impossible for families to find vaccines that ARE NOT MADE from abort fetus lines, available. i.e. Use the made up crisis to force sinful vaccines on the faithful.


2 posted on 02/13/2015 12:06:20 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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It is not for the parent, or consumer advocate to offer an opinion that prevents a child from receiving a vaccination

With all due respect doctor, GFY!
3 posted on 02/13/2015 12:06:33 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: George from New England

Very possible! Nothing surprises me anymore...


4 posted on 02/13/2015 12:07:11 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Parents are there to parent. The federal government can shove it. Same with Nanny State Manny.


5 posted on 02/13/2015 12:08:32 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Simple solution:

1. Remove the child from their parents at gunpoint.
2. Strap child to table.
3. Poke child with sharp needle containing liquid that contains the necessary vaccine.
4. Push needle plunger.
5. Pull the needle out.
6. Unstrap child from table.
7. Give child bus ticket.
8. Shove them out the door and shut the door.

Simple really.


6 posted on 02/13/2015 12:08:37 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I think the unfortunate thing about this vaccine/measles headline is that we never had an honest discussion on real possible cause to the increase in autism in the US.


7 posted on 02/13/2015 12:09:36 PM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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My children have had all of their vaccines, and that was a conscious choice on my part. However, FedGov lacks the authority to make vaccines mandatory.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

These rights are absolutes, and attempting to infringe on freedom of religion is an intolerable act of evil. FedGov can advertise better and communicate better to persuade, but they have no authority to use force or attempt to compel obedience.

8 posted on 02/13/2015 12:10:02 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So Obama has all the unilateral power now?


9 posted on 02/13/2015 12:10:20 PM PST by GeronL
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To: cuban leaf

Can any parent be trusted with a child’s welfare that refuses to “save” them with vaccinations? /s


10 posted on 02/13/2015 12:10:55 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

When they come for your kids they will be wearing bullet proof vests. My daughter’s friend is an accountant for the IRS. Part of her job is to hit the pistol range for practice and yes, she wears a bullet proof vest on her field audits.


11 posted on 02/13/2015 12:11:25 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
Remove the child from their parents at gunpoint.

Results may vary with step 1, the law of unintended consequences being what it is.
12 posted on 02/13/2015 12:11:31 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: mrmeyer

Results may vary with step 1, the law of unintended consequences being what it is.


Exactly for my instructive follow up post. ;-)


13 posted on 02/13/2015 12:12:40 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Maybe he should make them mandatory for all invading illegal alien children, eh Doc?


14 posted on 02/13/2015 12:15:43 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: cuban leaf
Another excerpt:

"Despite the fact that I hate the idea of government regulations and mandates, I have to agree with many of my colleagues that the time has come for the government to step in and take control of this issue"


To which I say, no you don't hate the idea, f**k you and your many colleagues, and regarding .gov stepping in - again beware the law of unintended consequences.
15 posted on 02/13/2015 12:17:03 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: GeronL

It is quickly moving in that direction and many FReepers are all for it...;-(


16 posted on 02/13/2015 12:17:15 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I agree.


17 posted on 02/13/2015 12:17:51 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Dear Fox News,

Thank you for the reminder of why I ditched you in November 2012 and haven’t been happier.

Dear Dr. Manny,

“Causing chaos in so many communities”

Really? A little over 100 cases nationally constitutes this phrase? Did you also realize that if you excluded foriegners, that the current measles infection rate would be lower than in the “normal” year? You know, the “normal year” being one that you claimed was “irradicated.”

How about discussing the actual cause of the increase in cases? You know, those tens of thousands of illiterate, poorest of the poor third world countries getting into this country unscreened and then freely dispersed to communities and housed in schools.

But hey, don’t worry about actually getting serious, we have an agenda to push!


18 posted on 02/13/2015 12:18:03 PM PST by CSM
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To: mrmeyer

Exactly!

Hey, how did that Ruby Ridge and Waco thing work out for them?


19 posted on 02/13/2015 12:18:37 PM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

Simple solution:

1. Remove the child from their parents at gunpoint.
2. Strap child to table.
3. Poke child with sharp needle containing liquid that contains the necessary vaccine.
4. Push needle plunger.
5. Pull the needle out.
6. Unstrap child from table.
7. Give child bus ticket.
8. Shove them out the door and shut the door.

Simple really.
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Worth repeating and the only thing I would add is a point:

1a: If parents resist, shoot them dead (or subdue them with a “choke hold” until they die from a pre-existing heart defect.)


20 posted on 02/13/2015 12:19:56 PM PST by CSM
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