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Dr. Manny: Should Obama make vaccines mandatory for all children?
Fox News ^ | 1/30/2015 | Dr. Manny Alvarez

Posted on 02/13/2015 12:03:01 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski
It is not for the parent to offer an opinion that prevents a child from receiving a vaccination...

It isn't? Then to whom DOES that option evolve? The child? Or the child's legal guardian? Or the all-powerful Collective?

41 posted on 02/13/2015 1:11:36 PM PST by IronJack
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To: cuban leaf

I have a solution. Parents could start hiding their children from the government.


42 posted on 02/13/2015 1:14:42 PM PST by ez (RIP America 1776-2014. Long live the oligarchy.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
I believe in being vaccinated (traveled extensively). I also believe that 0bama and his regime have absolutely no power under the U.S. Constitution to mandate children be vaccinated.

Not that the Constitution matters to him.

So Manny, read your Constitution, and sit down and stfu.

5.56mm

43 posted on 02/13/2015 1:16:12 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: nascarnation

Given that 90% of all kindergarteners in the state are fully immunized I have a hard time believing that 30% number. It must be a very very small 30%.


44 posted on 02/13/2015 1:21:02 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: cuban leaf

“My daughter’s friend is an accountant for the IRS. Part of her job is to hit the pistol range for practice and yes, she wears a bullet proof vest on her field audits.”

Just think about that for a minute: she has a job that is normally considered a mundane “desk job,” that requires her to be competent with a handgun, and requires her to carry a weapon and wear a bullet proof vest when she visits “clients.” All this is because people view her “company” as a criminal enterprise, like the mob, and perceive her job as nothing short of armed robbery.

Makes you wonder why on earth she stays in this job, and compromise her professional integrity, her own personal integrity, her personal honesty, and piece of mind. Money is not the answer. An accountant can make money anywhere. The only possible answer is that she agrees with what her “company” represents, approves of its mission, and approves and supports how it operates and conducts its business.

And people wonder where all the voters who put Obambi and other democrats in office came from and where they are. The answer is that they likely came right from your community and mine, and they might live right next door. There are some notable regional exceptions, but these people are likely right in your community and mine, and you and I interact with them on a daily basis. America is not anything like she was just 8-10 short years ago, much less 20 or 25 years ago. I am not confident that she will be able to return to a shadow of her former glory, much less make it intact through the next 2-5 years. It is going to be a rough trip, a very rough one, with an unknown destination.


45 posted on 02/13/2015 1:28:25 PM PST by LaRueLaDue (Remember- allah is the Charles Manson of deities, and mohammed is his Tex Watson. - LysolMotorola)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Apparently Dr. Manny is a fascist in a white coat...


46 posted on 02/13/2015 1:32:04 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

All that matters is what VaJar thinks about the issue, she will parrot her decision via Odumbo.


47 posted on 02/13/2015 2:49:28 PM PST by DAC21
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To: cuban leaf
Simple solution:

1. Remove the child from their parents at gunpoint.
2. Strap child to table.
3. Poke child with sharp needle containing liquid that contains the necessary vaccine.
4. Push needle plunger.
5. Pull the needle out.
6. Unstrap child from table.
7. Give child bus ticket.
8. Shove them out the door and shut the door.

Simple really


9th and 10th Amendment. We don't need no stinkin’ 9th and 10th amendments.

Step 1 may prove difficult.

48 posted on 02/13/2015 4:10:33 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Too much government intrusion and intervention into our lives as it is. Let the parents decide until the children are of legal age. After that, the children can choose to get vaccinated if the parents decided against vaccination.

It seems ninety-plus percent of parents today go along just to get along because they believe the government is always smarter, has a right solution about every issue, and is here to help them. Vaccinations...no problems, no questions, no worries.

So where’s the guarantee? When a child gets vaccinated and suffers unexpected and permanent side effects that will require special care for the rest of their children’s lives are the parents guaranteed government financial aid. Will the government be there to support them in this difficult time? Check out the vaccination program for the expected Swine flu epidemic from years past and the outcomes of that fiasco.

Why are vaccinated children coming down with the diseases the were immunized against? If the vaccination fails to provide immunity and the child develops the disease anyway, who bears the responsibility and costs in this event?

I think the government has the right to urge parents to get their children vaccinated, but not the right to force them to vaccinate against their will. I think parents need to look at both sides of the issue too, make their own decisions, and be prepared to live with the outcomes. The government does not know or care whether you child’s immune system has developed enough to withstand vaccination or not. All they know is one size fits everybody’s needs and all children develop at same rate. Parents know their children and their well being better than the government. All children are not developed and ready for vaccination at the same age.

This cry for mandatory vaccination is just another case of parents delegating their responsibility to the government to make those decisions for them. The parents still have to accept the risks with no guarantees. So why let the government decide?

Finally, we all know the taxpayer will bear the cost of these government vaccination programs and their outcomes.


49 posted on 02/13/2015 10:15:52 PM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: cuban leaf

“she wears a bullet proof vest on her field audits.”

Does she wear it on her head?


50 posted on 02/13/2015 10:23:24 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Maybe we should not elect lunatics who allow millions of disease INFESTED illegal alien children into the country disperse them by the thousands all across the country quietly so the willing press ignore it,allow them to be put into the schools no questions asked so they can spread their neat gifts to all our children then blame it on heartless republicans who don’t want to be forced to get vaccinated and make more rich democrats


51 posted on 02/14/2015 7:21:43 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Jan_Sobieski
The government has no right to inject into our bodies anything. Period.

That said, if a health issue arises the government has some rights to help contain it. However, I see the government claiming if you child doesn't get them that they cannot so much as be out in public. There is a balance there.

I fully believe in inoculations and people that refuse are Luddites. Frankly, we need to bleach the gene pool, so maybe if someone is stupid enough not to take advantage of modern medicine then maybe their stupid kids shouldn't make it alive to later breed. We should take warning labels off ladders, too.


52 posted on 02/14/2015 7:33:58 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: ballplayer

Bingo!


53 posted on 02/14/2015 7:51:30 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: CodeToad

I am not against vaccinations. Not a problem. You and yours get all the vaccinations you need. We will continue to trust in God, and hygiene, diet, and other common sense measures (going to the Dr. only when necessary). My kids, who are perfectly healthy, many of whom have been on mission trips around the world, will continue the tradition live their lives healthy, wealthy, and wise. Not a problem.


54 posted on 02/14/2015 7:57:46 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: M Kehoe

I am not against vaccinations either. I am glad that their are options for doing so. But when they take away a parent’s conscience decision to do what is best...the State then owns the child. This is a very bad thing...


55 posted on 02/14/2015 8:04:36 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“We will continue to trust in God”

God gave you a brain and expects you to use it.

If you do not eat, you will starve. God will not fill your belly.

If you do not drink, you will wither and die. God will not fill your body with water.

If you do not breath, you will suffocate. God will not fill your lungs with air.

If you bleed, you must stop it. God will not fill your veins with blood.

If you get sick, you must cure it. God created the bacteria that infests your body.

This isn’t the Garden of Eden. We left that. This is Earth, where we humans must learn to cope, adapt, and survive, and that includes medical care.


56 posted on 02/14/2015 8:20:08 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

This entire war on vaccinations REEKS of ObamaCare trying to get trolls to go onto social media like FR and campaign to remove vaccinations because of cost.

We have seen ObamaCare send out the trolls to dissuade women from getting pap smears and mammograms to save money, to tell men not to get annual physicals, tell men not to get colonoscopies, for pregnant women not to seek prenatal care, etc, etc, etc.

I think this article is just another attack on our medical system as a cost saving measure, posted by an ObamaCare social media troll.


57 posted on 02/14/2015 8:25:07 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad

Are you calling me, and other FReepers like me a troll, or the all knowing Dr. Manny a troll?


58 posted on 02/14/2015 8:32:03 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Lurker

Does she wear it on her head?


I let the reader infer what they want.

;-)


59 posted on 02/14/2015 11:05:45 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Texicanus

Great, erudite post! Points of argument I have not thought of.


60 posted on 02/15/2015 12:29:11 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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