Posted on 03/23/2015 7:02:23 AM PDT by ckilmer
The Chinese have now one upped the Russians successes in 1943-45 of spying on the Los Alamos labs.
Here’s a good background article for anyone interested in further research.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Current-and-Future-Generation/Molten-Salt-Reactors/
Enviro-nazi-earth-firsters-humanity-haters do NOT want clean, cheap plentiful energy.
They want about 500 million people for a total earth population.
Clean cheap PLENTIFUL energy would let the earth support tens of billions of people.
India also has at least one active Thorium reactor online already, and the Wikipedia has this to say also:
India has one of the largest supplies of thorium in the world, with comparatively poor quantities of uranium. India has projected meeting as much as 30% of its electrical demands through thorium by 2050.[41]
In February 2014, Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC), in Mumbai, India, presented their latest design for a “next-generation nuclear reactor” that will burn thorium as its fuel ore. Once built, with a target date of 2016, they estimate that the reactor could function without an operator for 120 days.[42]
According to Dr R K Sinha, chairman of their Atomic Energy Commission, “This will reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, mostly imported, and will be a major contribution to global efforts to combat climate change.” Because of its inherent safety, they expect that similar designs could be set up “within” populated cities, like - Mumbai or Delhi.[42]
India’s government is also developing up to 62, mostly thorium reactors, which it expects to be operational by 2025. It is the “only country in the world with a detailed, funded, government-approved plan” to focus on thorium-based nuclear power. The country currently gets under 2% of its electricity from nuclear power, with the rest coming from coal (60%), hydroelectricity (16%), other renewable sources (12%) and natural gas (9%).[43] It expects to produce around 25% of its electricity from nuclear power.[15]:144 In 2009 the chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission said that India has a “long-term objective goal of becoming energy-independent based on its vast thorium resources.”[44][45]
In late June 2012, India announced that their “first commercial fast reactor” was near completion making India the most advanced country in thorium research.” We have huge reserves of thorium. The challenge is to develop technology for converting this to fissile material,” stated their former Chairman of India’s Atomic Energy Commission.[46] That vision of using thorium in place of uranium was set out in the 1950s by physicist Homi Bhabha.[47][48] India’s first commercial fast breeder reactor — the 500 MWe Prototype Fast Breeder Reactor (PFBR) — is approaching completion at the Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research, Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu.
As of July 2013 the major equipment of the PFBR had been erected and the loading of “dummy” fuels in peripheral locations was in progress. The reactor was expected to go critical by September 2014.[49]
The Centre had sanctioned Rs. 5,677 crore for building the PFBR and “we will definitely build the reactor within that amount,” Mr. Kumar asserted. The original cost of the project was Rs. 3,492 crore, revised to Rs. 5,677 crore. Electricity generated from the PFBR would be sold to the State Electricity Boards at Rs. 4.44 a unit. BHAVINI builds breeder reactors in India. India’s 300 MWe AHWR (pressurized heavy water reactor) reactor began construction in 2011. The design envisages a start up with reactor grade plutonium that will breed U-233 from Th-232. Thereafter thorium is to be the only fuel.[50]
I think it’s the fault of sloppy thinking.
We create the artificial category of “illegal drugs,” then insist on treating all in that category the same, whether we’re talking pot, crack or meth. Many people do the same with “chemicals” or “pesticides,” substances that have wildly different characteristics within the group.
Similarly, I think we insist that all fission reactors are the same, when they clearly are not.
My problem with the thorium reactors is that every article I’ve read on the subject was obviously written by a fanboy. I’m really interested in an article that lays out their weaknesses as well as their advantages.
China has two advantages with regards to this technology: one, they can ship any complaining environmentalists off to grow rice in rice paddies; two, they have lots of indigenous thorium.
The Chinese figured out a more tangible way to benefit from the climate change fraud: We're going to ignore you and go ball$ to the wall producing CO2...until you give us something.
Extortion by any other definition, still a far cry better than wealth confiscation by fraud...but pales to capitulation by our government & its willingness to give away our wealth & tech advantage as it does time & again...
...yet some here continue to preach overseas battles at the expense of complacency at home...
Besides...the Fed can't really be renaming Lafayette Park "Zhongnanhai".../s
Exactly,
I saw a clip of a Chinese Communist Party princeling on Youtube, where he was bragging that the Chinese would own the intellectual property for the new reactor designs, which they could not develop without the American participation.
So, instead of articles written by fanboys, you want something written by haters?
” My problem with the thorium reactors is that every article I’ve read on the subject was obviously written by a fanboy. I’m really interested in an article that lays out their weaknesses as well as their advantages.”
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power
Those are the only two alternatives, in your mind?
Am I missing something here?
[ So, let me see if I get this right ... we’re going to BORROW money from China to build THEM a state-of-the-art nuclear reactor?
Am I missing something here? ]
You missed the part where we pay through the nose to buy the finished reactors from china, or we allow the chinese to build reactors here and then they undercut the other electricity providers until they monopolize the market... THEN we pay thropugh the nose per Kilowatt hour.....
So, let me see if I get this right ... we’re going to BORROW money from China to build THEM a state-of-the-art nuclear reactor?
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No. China is putting the money and the USA is putting in the expertise.
Problem is the USA could easily afford to pay for this program.
Clean cheap PLENTIFUL energy would let the earth support tens of billions of people.
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In order to have limited government you have to have unlimited resources. The key to unlimited resources is cheap plentiful energy.
The Chinese figured out a more tangible way to benefit from the climate change fraud: We’re going to ignore you and go ball$ to the wall producing CO2...until you give us something.
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In the last two years the Chinese have really pushed hard on solar production. They’ll be installing next year as much solar power as the USA has installed altogether.
Except for relatively low power or off the grid applications, solar is still not ready for prime time - not the most cost effective alternative.
Chinese investment in installing solar capacity is just more of the mal-investment in infrastructure, that they have become famous for.
The solar industry is growing around the world, but China is taking growth to another level. It recently set the most aggressive goal of any country by targeting 17.8 GW of solar installations in 2015. That’s 19% higher than the proposed 15 GW goal, and 70% higher than the 10.5 GW installed in 2014.
Just how big is China’s goal?
To put China’s goal into some perspective, here is how 17.8 GW stacks up in the solar industry.
17.8 GW of solar energy would power 2.9 million U.S. households, or about 2.5% of the homes in the U.S.
If built as a utility-scale power plant, 17.8 GW of solar energy would cover about 107,000 acres, or 167 square miles.
Next year alone, China could approach the grand total of 18.3 GW of solar ever installed in the U.S.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/03/22/chinas-new-solar-target-could-set-the-stage-for-a.aspx
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