The John Birch Society & Article V - Standing for Hypocrisy and Deception

Vanity ^ | 03-27-2015 | MJ Alexander (Vanity)

[Jacquerie]

Article V Ping!

[Publius]

Article V ping. An intriguing vanity.

[Star Traveler]

I think we would be better off if the Birchers ran the country than the current crop of Obamites! ... LOL ...

[Strawberry AZ]

nolo contendere...

[Jacquerie]

. . . they are the ones who illogically insist that the Constitution was ratified illegally . . .

That is a fairly common trait among Article V opponents.

[Theoria]

'We must reverse Citizens United, Restore our Democracy, and Save the Republic. Join the Fight for Free and Fair Elections in America!'

[Strawberry AZ]

Almost universal...

[sergeantdave]

The JBS was one of the first to warn about the danger of the so-called environmental cult’s attack on private property rights, later confirmed by the Cato Institute, and its connection to the UN and Agenda 21.

What’s your opinion on that?

[demshateGod]

Article V will only work as far as our leaders allow it to work. Our constitution is fine, it just needs to be defended.

[Regulator]

I don’t know about the current crop of Birchers but I do remember the Birch Society of the mid 60’s taking positions that people back then said were laughable.

They all turned out to be correct.

[demshateGod]

I’m against the COS because it’s a waste of time. The courts, the oligarchs, the technocrats, and the ruling class will just ignore it, as they do the current constitutions. Tell me I’m wrong.

[Strawberry AZ]

Wrong group... no affiliation whatsoever... if you weren't trying to conflate the two or didn't intend to suggest some sort of equivalence between them, then I apologize.

If, on the other hand, you were... please inform yourself:

Citizens for Self-Governance Convention of States Project

PS: Does that sound like the WolfPAC agenda to you?

[Strawberry AZ]

Different issue... no one is saying that they’re wrong on everything, but they’re certainly wrong on Article V.

[knarf]

WHO IS JOHN BIRCH

[Theoria]

There was no confusion. I was posting a Article V group that is against liberty. And that is the point, when you play with fire 'we' might get burned.

It is a vanity and it is logical to post information about Article V groups that are trying to curb liberty and other such movements.

[Mears]

And it was originally based in Belmont,MA of all places.

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[PapaNew]

Well, you have nuts on the Right and fruits on the Left I guess.

[Strawberry AZ]

You wrote: " Our constitution is fine, it just needs to be defended."

That's what every liberal lawyer and activist judge says! You are playing right into their hands.

The Constitution is beautifully written but it's the vague and often ambiguous language of the Founders that liberal jurists twist and contort in their tortured interpretations to create new powers and broader jurisdiction for the federal government that the Framers never intended, the very same language that an Article V amendment convention can clarify.

And your statement that "Article V will only work as far as our leaders allow it to work" is nonsense. It's legal, it's peaceful, and it's a forum for debate. It can do nothing more than PROPOSE amendments, then it adjourns and every delegate returns to their lives.

Only after that will it then up to the 50 state legislatures to determine whether or not any of those proposals will ever become the Law of the Land.

"Our leaders," whoever those boogeymen may be, will have virtually nothing to say about it.

[Strawberry AZ]

You wrote: "...I do remember the Birch Society of the mid 60’s taking positions that people back then said were laughable."

Absolutely... they were (and are today) 100% correct on many issues dear to Conservative hearts. That's not the issue.

My point is that they were for Article V before they were against it! They were right then on the issue, but wrong now, and their former or current position on any other issue is completely irrelevant to this discussion.