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Stumbling through history: How did U.S. foreign policy end up in such disarray?
Politico ^ | Joe Scarborough

Posted on 03/29/2015 6:57:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: BradyLS

Yep. The ones who had any sense or grew up are on here and prepping.


21 posted on 03/29/2015 7:44:16 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

By the evil designs of dear leader.

This is intentional.

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22 posted on 03/29/2015 7:46:44 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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23 posted on 03/29/2015 7:50:14 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because he loves communism and because he hates our allies like UK, Germany, Israel, Canada, etc., and especically because he wants to build up the global IslamoNazi caliphate (dictatorship) at our expense and the expense of everybody else in his way.

Question answered, see above.


24 posted on 03/29/2015 7:51:37 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Foolish people ... have eyes and see not)
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To: Talisker
Hillary was Secretary of State for four years and left the Middle East literally in flames.

Yep. And we can add onto that the incredibly inept handling of foreign policy by her successor, an unashamed traitor to the United States.

Bush left Iraq in better shape than it had been in since WWII. 0bama squandered it. Bush overthrew the Taliban in Afghanistan in three weeks, the direct upshot of 9/11 and fully deserved. Unfortunately, neither man was able to come up with a policy guaranteeing that they'd stay out of government. That's not really too surprising; foreign powers have been trying something like it there for most of history with equal lack of success.

But for the absolute, bloody shambles in the Middle East we have to blame progressives who simply could not conceive of the U.S. as anything but unbearably imperialistic under Bush and "all better now" that a Nobel Peace Prize winner was in office to reverse not only all his predecessor's policies but most of the country's for the last four decades. The result we see before us, and it isn't pretty, and hearing an idiot like Josh Earnest bleat that all is well only rubs salt in the wounds.

25 posted on 03/29/2015 7:51:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By retreating too quickly from Iraq, ignoring mass murder in Syria, abandoning Iranian reformers being shot in Tehran’s streets, blowing up Libya and then leaving it to burn, ignoring ISIL until it the terror group metastasized across the Middle East, antagonizing the Sunni world by launching a desperate bid for an Iranian nuclear deal, and stiff-arming America’s two most important regional allies in Jerusalem and Cairo, Barack Obama has somehow inherited a dangerously unfocused U.S. foreign policy and reduced it to rubble.

Seems like a fair assessment. Or as I say, George W. Bush may have been a moron, but the Obamanation makes him look like Stephen Hawking.
26 posted on 03/29/2015 7:52:25 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I’ve been simultaneously ramping up both my ability to grow food for my own family and ability to defend it by various means.

With any luck, before everything goes to crap, I’ll have my own small water tower, biocomposting toilet, and solar panels, so I can go completely off the grid.


27 posted on 03/29/2015 7:55:08 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Crazy Joe, I have the short simple answer for you. It was the misguided policies of Kennedy (Cuba), LBJ (Vietnam), Carter (the entire Middle East, Iran and the USSR) Clinton (the Middle East) and 0bama (everything he touched). The adults in between we’re stuck with picking up the pieces.


28 posted on 03/29/2015 8:00:27 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I could say it began with James Earl Carter, but I have to put the onus on one Barack Hussein Obama....ummm...ummm...ummm.


29 posted on 03/29/2015 8:07:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: BradyLS
Boomers that never grew up are now running the asylum.

That's part of it, but the fact that the State Department plainly has had no competent orientalists on the Middle East desk since at least the administration of Bush the Younger started the disaster. How do I know they didn't have any? If they had, someone would have warned that the invasion of Iraq was ripping the bandage off the Sunni-Shia fault line and that measures would needed to deal with this. If someone had given that warning and been ignored, they would have, by now, written a tell-all memoir. No such book has appeared, ergo, there was not a competent orientalist at State.

30 posted on 03/29/2015 8:19:02 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: baltimorepoet

Awesome. We’re about to build a greenhouse.


31 posted on 03/29/2015 8:29:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Talisker

Putting ANY Democrat in charge of foreign policy is like putting Yogi Bear in charge of the picnic baskets.Never a good idea.


32 posted on 03/29/2015 8:33:03 PM PDT by Baltimore ken (Baltimore Ken)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bush’s democracy project was a cover of the real politics, which was to block Iranian expansion. It was thwarted by the failure to install an Iraqi government in place of Saddam’s, one which included the Sunnis, and by dissolving the army. It seems that there was division inside the Bush administration about what that government was to look like. We put in a viceroy instead, We needed a McArthur but didn’t have one on tap.


33 posted on 03/29/2015 8:35:51 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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Obama knows what he is doing but is lying about it until events make it hard for us to reverse the course he has set. He wants detente with Iran.


34 posted on 03/29/2015 8:38:13 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: BradyLS

Disarray is too mild of a word.


35 posted on 03/29/2015 8:44:49 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In 2012 Iraq was peaceful, stable, and democratic-- or so Obama told us as he took credit for the state of affairs during the election campaign. Now suddenly it is Bush's fault even though he left office long before any of the current troubles began.

Scarborough was a sellout even before Bush though, so it all computes...I think...

36 posted on 03/29/2015 8:53:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey Joe, there’s some girl sleeping on your office floor. Oh, wait...


37 posted on 03/29/2015 9:50:04 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

AFP is FUBAR

FUBO


38 posted on 03/29/2015 11:44:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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Yemen is in flames, ISIL is on the march, Syria is apocalyptic, Iran is racing through Iraq, anarchy reigns in Libya, Jordan is on the brink, Turkey is slipping away, and America’s relationship with the Middle East’s only democracy has hit an all-time low.


39 posted on 03/29/2015 11:48:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The Middle East nest of barbarians was poked and poked again and again...and they are deadly.

Ismael's descendant's......"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be 'against everyone' and everyone's hand against him,.... and he will live in hostility toward all 'his brothers'."

Much has been written about the Middle East crisis from a 'political' perspective,... but it will never be understood apart from its spiritual roots,... for it is from start to finish a spiritual conflict – which is why it will never be settled politically.

40 posted on 03/30/2015 12:19:41 AM PDT by caww
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