Posted on 04/01/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty
BUMP
“Because they lost my at their hypocrisy.”
No. You lost yourself and the argument when you can’t see the difference between tolerating something you disagree with (serving a homosexual at your eatery) and refusing to participate in an abomination to your religion ( catering a homosexual marriage ceremony ).
I doubt that you truly don’t have the intellect to see the obvious distinction. If you choose to support the homosexual agenda and homosexual marriage, have the balz to do it overtly, as opposed to looking like you reason like a 5th grade liberal.
:^)
[[Maybe he’s a Unitarian...]]
Could be, certainly sounds like he denies the deity of Christ
Oh I see- being around a long while makes someone legit? lol- He may be right on some things from time to time, but on this issue he’s wrong-
[[And Bob434m with you yourself being a Aug 20, 2014 sign-up]]
Whatever kid- my posting history is available for anyone to see- I’m no troll-
It’s nice that you are defending your friend, but at least do so by staying apprised of the conversation I n question
[[Throwing Scripture passages around does nothing to convince ANYONE of this. This is a political fight.]]
You obviously have missed the whole context of the discussion between SOL and myself- The discussion we were having had EVERYTHING to do with scriptures- Scriptures he DENIES- so yeah- again, it’s nice that you defend your friend, but again, you’re off the mark on this!
[[Look to the beam in your own eye, sport.]]
lol- whatever kid
Remembering what Mark Twain said about arguing with fools, I’ll let you have the last word.
[[calling a long-time Freeper a “troll” is suspicious]]
REally? Let’s break down what a troll does
1: demand evidence
2: IGNORE evidence
3: REPEAT demand for evidence over and over and over again (even though evidence was already given)
4: Resort to insulting the other person or accusing them of silly crap over and over and over again
5: Does these thigns to try to raise the ire of the other person (SOL even gleefully and wrongly claimed he/she made me upset- and likely was disappointed when I wasn’t ,then resorted to the same silly ‘insult’ over and over again)
Has SOL Done these things that trolls usually do in this conversation? You betcha- My question about trollish behavior was ‘suspiscious’? I don’t think it was at all- I’ve run into a great many trolls ove4r the years, and I recognized the pattern which was why I said what I said- I didn’t make the statement lightly- I made it because he/she was following the exact same patterns I’ve run into many times before-
Again I understand you wanting to defend your internet friend, but I stand by what I’ve said for the reasons I’ve said
[[It isn’t the same issue based on plain bible teaching. Anything that is not sinful, you may help your enemies do.]]
That pretty much cuts right to the quick of the issue- eating isn’t sinful, so serving someone who is hungry isn’t, (although a weak argument could be made that you are giving sustenance to a sinful person, thereby indirectly supporting them in their pursuit of their sinful life- but it’s a very weak argument and the bible does state ‘be in the world but not of the world’ which can be argued we need to do business with sinful people but not partake ourselves of their sin) supporting their sinful lifestyle, but helping them celebrate their abomination certainly would be sinful on the part of the server, and violate God’s word, as the server would be ‘partaking in the sin’ activity-
“...lol- whatever kid..”
Indeed.
You go calling people trolls, and don’t have the courtesy to ping them.
Correction: You will allow me the last word, because you have nothing substantive to add to your initial lack of reasoning.
“Well...Bye”
[[Of course, God knows mens’ hearts - we do not.]]
We can to a pretty certain degree, tell what is in their hearts- God tells us to judge righteously to see if they be of Him or not
(Psa. 37:30) A righteous person will talk of judgment. He will not REFUSE to judge. He will talk judgment.
Corinthians 2:15 Paul says, “But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.”
1 john 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
“Ye shall know them by their fruits,”
John 7:24 says: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
john 5:30 (jesus setting an example of how to judge) “As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.”
While we can not see the actual heart of a person, Jesus taught us how to judge accurately, righteously, and without bias to see what is in a person’s heart, and whether they be of God or not
I John 4:1-3 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
Heb. 5:12-14 “For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
and so on and so forth- We can, and indeed are commanded to judge righteously to see if the person is of God or not- it is our duty to judge their heart so as to not be taken in by a false prophet
oh for crying outl ouid- He/she was reading the entire thread and was reading all my resposnes AND the person to whom I responded to when I said it- nothing was hidden- cripes- grow up!
Yes, there was more to my post in that regard, about discernment.
You’re SO cute when you’re angry.
Remembering what Mark Twain said about arguing with fools, I’ll let you have the last word.
Actually, the poster you respond to could more correctly say that about you...
” You go calling people trolls, and don’t have the courtesy to ping them.”
I don’t know if Bob 434 is a troll or not but he is blind to his own shortcomings by dumping on Sickoflibs. SOL has taken the pro-Christian arguments and promoted them for over a decade. Bob, you are NOT Mr. Biblical Exegesis, buy you ARE a smug, self complacent,pompous jerk.
lol- I don’t know what SOL has done for years- I DO know what he did In this thread, and I suspect may do in other threads as well as it was very typical of trollish behavior- He did EXACTLY what I described, and how you can excuse that behavior, and turn around and call me a “smug, self complacent,pompous jerk.” is beyond me. He DEMANDED evidence that I back up what I claimed- I POLITELY provided the evidence, then he starts right in on me with trollish behavior- and to top it off he apparently gets a bunch of his friends to come slap him on the back by further attacking my character? And you call me smug, self complacent,pompous jerk.?
He displayed the following behavior typical of trolls I’ve encountered over the years
1: demand evidence
2: IGNORE evidence
3: REPEAT demand for evidence over and over and over again (even though evidence was already given)
4: Resort to insulting the other person or accusing them of silly crap over and over and over again
5: Does these thigns to try to raise the ire of the other person (SOL even gleefully and wrongly claimed he/she made me upset- and likely was disappointed when I wasn’t ,then resorted to the same silly ‘insult’ over and over again)
Has SOL Done these things that trolls usually do in this conversation? You betcha-
[[SOL has taken the pro-Christian arguments and promoted them for over a decade.]]
By DENYING Christ is God? Really? How is that a ‘pro-Christian argument when it flies In the face of the very Christian foundations?
[[dumping on Sickoflibs]]
Good golly- Calling him out for his behavior in THIS thread, and asking him to clarify his position about Christ is ‘dumping on him’? Whatever kid!
I appreciate that you want to stick up for your internet buddy, but resorting to immature insults isn’t helping your case much- so, Since SOL won’t answer the question I posed to him/her, and since he/she (which is it?) doesn’t care to educate him/herself on hypostatic union or kenosis- I’ll ask you since you seem feel you need to run to his/her defense
Do you believe Christ was God or not?
[[Bob, you are NOT Mr. Biblical Exegesis,]]
Nope, never claimed to be bub BUT I DO claim to know a bit about the bible, and I DO claim to know that Christianity teaches the concept of God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, and that all are one- which is what this whole discussion between SOL and myself was all about before SOL started In with the immature innuendos about living under the law and being Jewish (Which SOL apparently thinks is an insult? or perhaps degrading? I guess he/she thinks Jews are evidently ‘stuck in the old testament’?)
Since you seem to be the mouthpiece for SOL now, perhaps you can answer the question I posed since you seem to think SOL ‘promotes the Christian position”? Or would you rather just keep on dishing out the petty immature insults?
[[and I DO claim to know that Christianity teaches the concept of God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, and that all are one- which is what this whole discussion between SOL and myself was all about ]]
Sorry lemme clarify that- “Jesus is God, the Holy spirit is God, all are one, and God declares many times that He does NOT love sinners’ and that is what the whole discussion was about
IF you feel you have something worthwhile to contribute that can defend your friend’s position That Jesus loves EVERYBODY, then I’ll gladly address it or attempt to provided you can refrain from breaking into nothing but insults like your friend did and like you did in your first post to me-
And would you care to clarify how my, or anyone else for that matter, pointing out the fact that someone doesn’t care to educate themselves on a basic Christian ideology, and who apparently just wants to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, despite evidence presented to them to the contrary, amounts to making me ‘pompous, self complacent, smug, jerk’?
I find it odd that you glossed over and ignored the insults and innuendos your internet buddy made, and only saw my responses (which btw were simple observations of what was happening In the thread, and not some outlandish accusations like your buddy was making- It was very obvious your buddy didn’t want to look up the concept of hypostatic union, didn’t want to look up kenosis, and just wanted to keep insinuating I was living in old testament times and inferring I was a Jew who wasn’t up on the whole bible- and it was also fairly obvious that your buddy denies that Christ is infact God- But again- I understand you wanting to defend your buddy, but it’s pretty obvious to me you do so with bias
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