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To: QualityMan

I like the guy,I like what he says and the stand he takes, BUT he is not qualified to be President because of his citizenship status. Here we go again. We either stand with the Constitution, or make an amendment to the Constitution spelling out exactly who can run for President, else our republic continues to die a slow death, inch by inch, and it is pretty sickly right now.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 12:26:10 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: kiltie65
BUT he is not qualified to be President because of his citizenship status.
Hogwash.
16 posted on 04/02/2015 12:40:08 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: kiltie65

I agree that’s it’s time that we conservatives started slashing our own throats. Good thinking. Bob


17 posted on 04/02/2015 12:54:20 PM PDT by alstewartfan (You're a worn-out face in all the hangout places Where the lost souls congregate. Al Stewart)
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To: kiltie65

[BUT he is not qualified to be President because of his citizenship status]

YES, TED CRUZ IS ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT

https://drewmusings.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/yes-ted-cruz-is-eligible-to-be-president/


18 posted on 04/02/2015 12:58:20 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: kiltie65
STFU. This issue has been settled. Cruz is 100% eligible to run for Prez.
19 posted on 04/02/2015 1:06:10 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: kiltie65

Bullshit.


25 posted on 04/02/2015 1:30:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: kiltie65

Precedent Obama has made that a moot point.

CRUZ TO VICTORY OR GET BUSHED !


27 posted on 04/02/2015 3:54:53 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: kiltie65

TROLL.


28 posted on 04/02/2015 3:59:19 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: kiltie65

Is Ted Cruz a natural-born citizen eligible to serve as president? [Yes! And I support him! JimRob]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3084490/posts

Is Ted Cruz Eligible for the Presidency?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3273307/posts

Yes Ted Cruz Is Eligible To Be President
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3054472/posts


31 posted on 04/02/2015 4:22:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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To: kiltie65

No, he’s qualified. President Madison settled the question more than 200 years ago when asked about Americans born overseas or at sea.

If the parents were citizens and were ‘domiciled’ in the United States even though they ‘resided’ abroad or were aboard ship, then the child was considered natural born.

There is a legal distinction between the terms ‘domicile’ and ‘resident’. For example, if Thomas Jefferson had children while he ‘resided’ in France as US Ambassador, then his children were considered natural born because he maintained his ‘domicile’ in Monticello, Virginia.

Ted Cruz is qualified and eligible to be President of the United States.

Ted Cruz is ***destined*** to be the next President of the United States. It is his destiny and he can do nothing about it except fulfill it.


34 posted on 04/02/2015 7:05:47 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: kiltie65

Here’s the rest of the explanation and also the background on the origination of the natural born requirement.

Cruz’s father was naturalized in 2005. He was a Cuban citizen when Ted was born in 1970. But it does not matter. It does not matter because his mother was a natural US Citizen.

Now before others get fired up about the notion that both parents had to be citizens in order for their children to be considered natural born, let’s review what life was like in the late 1700s, the 1800s and the early 1900s in America.

First note the fact that women were not allowed to vote until 1919 followed by passage of the 19th Amendment.

Second note that many early Americans took Indian wives because white women were scarce (life was rough) and many hands (children) were needed to survive the rough wilderness. Marriage was not so much about romance or passion as it was about making children (as many as possible), raising them and putting them to work.

One of my ancestors was a Mohican Indian Princess who married a decendant of Robert the Bruce. My ancestors were mostly English-Scots-Irish.

A lot has changed since that time; a lot.

The key fact to understand about citizenship in early America is that it was all on the male. If a woman married a US citizen, she was automatically a US Citizen, deriving all from her husband. Divorce was rarer than rare and dual citizenship was prohibited. If a woman was German or French, Spanish or Mexican, whatever, her citizenship line was voided and she folded in with her husband in regards to recognition of her legal status. Men had all the power over their wives.

So if a child was born to an American male who was a US Citizen, it did not matter where his wife, the mother of the child came from, she was considered a citizen because of him. Hence, it was construed that both father and mother as US Citizens gave birth to ‘natural born’ citizens. But the mother’s status was defaulted to her husband’s status so the requirement of two citizen parents was in reality a requirement that the father be a US Citizen.

With the 19th Amendment and on into the 20th Century all that changed. Women became legally equivalent to men insofar as citizenship status and rights. If she as a US Citizen had a child, it was pretty much granted that her child was natural born. But conditions were added.

At root of the notion of ‘Natural Born’ are the concerns of LOYALTY and ALLEGIANCE. These concerns were raised by John Jay in letters to General Washington that presidents must originate as ‘natural born’ to ensure their allegiance and loyalty because presidents would be Commanders-in-Chief of the Army and Navy and could potentially impose tyranny on the citizenry via military control.

Obviously if a US Citizen left the United States to live abroad and became a citizen of their newly adopted country, or if they gave up their ‘domicile’ in the United States, then something needed to be adjudicated as to children if such children were born abroad.

Now the content of post #34 can be read to understand that Ted Cruz is solidly eligible to be President because his mother was a US Citizen at the time of his birth because she was in Canada only for purposes of work while she maintained connections in the United States that constituted a legal domicile. For example, a relative accepting mail for a relative working outside the country temporarily would be construed as a domicile for the affected person.

Ted Cruz is eligible. Ted Cruz is destined for the White House. I believe he will gather more and more momentum such that he cannot be stopped except possibly by Executive Amnesty to ten million or more. That’s where the real battle will be.


35 posted on 04/03/2015 12:48:37 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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