Posted on 04/05/2015 9:28:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Let's see, the PLO, oops, I mean the Paleostinian Authority (PA) does not recognize Israel's right to exist, neither does HAMAS, Hizbollah, 20 Arab nations, all of Islam, Iran, Shiites, Houtis, Sunnis or...the White House. Why is Bibi so uptight? So what if Iran has sworn to wipe Israel off the map. What is your problem Netanyahu? Obama said 36 times that, he's “got your back”. Isn't the guarantee from a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington good ebnough for you Sir?
Iran has never and will never developing the bomb and the missiles of carrying them. Wake up.
Iran has plenty of chemical and biological warheads it could deploy. So Israel requires recognition now, even before the nukes are manufactured. Going nuclear however would be the last straw.
Of course they would reject Israel’s right to exist, Obama and the Democrat party BOOED Israel during the 2012 DNC Convention..they abandoned Israel a long time ago..it could be wiped off the map tomorrow and they would not shed one tear for her..oh and Marie Harf is an insult to idiots everywhere..just looking at her, I wouldn’t mind having ISIS spend 5 minutes with her, I would laugh my a@@ off
My mistake, I meant to say they will never STOP building their missiles and Nukes. Sorry, typed quickly.
100% agreement with you. Armagheddon is approaching under the Obama administration.
I don't think she is stupid or naive. I think she is just plain evil.
Thanks for the correction. Sorry about the sharpness.
No harm done partner...
“I generally back Netanyahu, but here I disagree. To hell with Iran’s thoughts on Israel.”
I think one of the important things pointed out in this debate is how perversely honest the mullahs are when it comes to defining their interests. You’d think they’d at least be willing to put on a show of kumbaya in order to smooth the way to an agreement that is so favorable to them. But no — Israel is making political trouble for Obama, and a Revolutionary Guard figure makes a point of saying the destruction of Israel is non-negotiable. The only discipline the treaty can exert on Iran is through the threat of the resumption of sanctions, but Iran insists that sanctions be terminated, not suspended (meaning there would have to be a UN vote, subject to Russia/China veto, in order to reimpose them), at the outset of the treaty. The basic fiction of the agreement is that Iran has a peaceful use for nuclear technology, but they refuse to come clean about the nature of their previous technological developments.
The only tool Netanyahu and others have in this debate is to keep pointing out how recalcitrant, untrustworthy, hostile, and mendacious the Iranian leadership is in the hopes that this turd of an agreement will crumble due to the increasingly fantastic attempts to put a shine on it. The point is that the Iranians are not even willing to pretend to be a peaceful nation with normal interests and ambitions, when Obama is insisting that they be treated as such.
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The UN was just joking. Israel's continued existence should not be a bar to selling IPhones in Iran. After all, the business of America is business. Don't blame Coolidge for that, it's a typical media distortion of the chief business of the American people is business, which was largely accurate. Now it's only the business of the people supporting the other people
Article 2:4 All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state...
Netz, I’m not sure which way you were leaning there. I believe you left out an important word or two.
Thanks for your thoughts on the issue.
I’m not sure how much chemical or biological weapons it has.
What Iran agrees to in public means nothing. We’re talking about people with a religion that teaches it’s okay to lie when making agreements, and that it’s honorable not to stick to them.
I’d still stick with the nuclear agreement with inspections.
I agree with your points, and to the extent Netanyahu’s comments do expose Iran’s and Obama’s policies for what they are, I agree with the statement of his.
One of two things, probably both are amazing to me. Either Obama and Kerry like Iran’s policies, or they are major simpletons when it comes to negotiations. I think it’s safe to say both things are true.
What you laid out there is simple logical truth. Any person with an average intelligence should be able to discern it, and these men have teams of advisers (supposedly) skilled on matters like these.
You have laid it out clearly, and they still don’t get it. Or it is more likely that they understand fully, and work against Western civilization intently.
Then we should give them one. I’ll grant you that we haven’t yet. Why shouldn’t they negotiate to develop the bomb if they can get away with it? At least from their perspective, that obviously suits their purposes.
When China couldn’t get a satellite into orbit (and therefore couldn’t launch ballistic missiles),
Clinton changes some regulations allowing a donor company
to sell the orbital technology to them.
I guess it was “only fair”.
I don’t consider it fair, or reasoned. I don’t consider what is going on with Iran to be fair or reasoned either.
I only spoke of Iran’s perspective, which I stridently disagree with.
As for Clinton, yes he approved a deal for Loral Corporation to gift China with gyro and stabilization technology. It was so clearly a national security issue, that the man should have been impeached on that alone.
China now has a space capability and a weapons capability that they probably still wouldn’t have had if we hadn’t gifted them with it.
Clinton as well as Obama gift our enemies at will. I believe that Loral Corporation was a big donor to Clinton. Clinton would sell his own mother for a buck. You know, the one being pulled through a trailer park...
As for Obama, he’s just ideologically and enemy of the United States. He’s a flat out traitor, although so was Clinton, both for that matter.
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