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Excessive Speed Probed as Factor in Fatal Philadelphia Train Wreck
WSJ.com ^
| 05/13/2015
| TED MANN, Biography @TMannWSJ ted.mann Google+ Ted.Mann@wsj.com ANDREW TANGEL and KRIS MAHER
Posted on 05/13/2015 9:52:29 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004
hmmmmm....... I doubt there is an Amtrack train capable of reaching 100 mph
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:54:22 AM PDT
by
bert
((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
To: GIdget2004; Biggirl; JimSEA
An Amtrak train involved in a fatal crash here appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour..........................
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:54:25 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: GIdget2004
Speed kills . . . but I’m sure that train always sped past their curve - had a history of it. It would certainly be a factor for consideration if terrorists did indeed choose this as an optimal target.
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:54:34 AM PDT
by
Pilgrim's Progress
(http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
To: GIdget2004
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:55:14 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: GIdget2004
Report: Amtrak train was traveling more than 100 mph as it entered a sharp curve before derailing, sources tell @WSJ
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:55:23 AM PDT
by
McGruff
(What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
To: GIdget2004
Did the engineer lock himself in and yell Allahu Akbar?
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:55:25 AM PDT
by
Raycpa
To: GIdget2004
After what happened in Japan in 2005 at the Amagasaki train crash west of Osaka that killed over 100 people due to excessive speed approaching a sharp curve, the West Japan Railway Company aggressively installed a lot more Automatic Train Stop (ATS) warning systems on the track. Maybe it’s time for the railroads on the Northeast Corridor to install ATS at every critical point on the track to prevent overspeeding, which may have caused this accident.
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:56:15 AM PDT
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: GIdget2004
Nothing to see here...just excessive speed...no need to panic.
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:57:21 AM PDT
by
who knows what evil?
(Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
To: Red Badger
More to the point, I doubt that there is an Amtrak train that speeds at all without it being common knowledge. These things are timed from station to station and the station chief knows how long it takes going 60 mph.
The other issue though, is these things arrive and depart at stations on a timetable . . . very rarely do they deviate from that. If the train is scheduled to arrive at 1:23 a.m., it is going to arrive very much in the vicinity of 1:23 a.m.
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:57:34 AM PDT
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Pilgrim's Progress
(http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
To: bert
From the surveillance video, it seems to be more like 80 mph.
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posted on
05/13/2015 9:59:31 AM PDT
by
Deo volente
(God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
To: GIdget2004
This train has a “black Box”.
They’ll know how fast this was going by this afternoon.
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posted on
05/13/2015 10:01:41 AM PDT
by
tcrlaf
(They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
To: Pilgrim's Progress
Amtrak is late by hours coming behind our house all the time.
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posted on
05/13/2015 10:02:30 AM PDT
by
SaxxonWoods
(Life is good.y)
To: Pilgrim's Progress
Engineer fell asleep, I bet.................
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posted on
05/13/2015 10:02:52 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: Raycpa
Did the engineer lock himself in and yell Allahu Akbar? According to Fox, the engineer is refusing to talk to investigators. He's union of course, so naturally there will be a big fight over any disciplinary actions.
To: GIdget2004
A hundred mph is hard to believe. I don’t know about the passenger locomotive models that Amtrak uses, but most locomotives have a top speed of 70mph. Also, there are usually onboard systems that limit the top speed of the locomotive, and will drop power and apply a penalty brake application if that speed is exceeded, and an engineer cannot override those systems.
The only way to know is to retreive the event recorder (locomotive “black box”), and look at the data.
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posted on
05/13/2015 10:11:36 AM PDT
by
factoryrat
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To: factoryrat
From another article:
Amtrak crews have been installing “Advanced Civil Speed Enforcement” on the Northeast Corridor and other Amtrak rail routes, and were to install the system this year in the Philadelphia area.
The system is designed to prevent collisions, automatically slow speeding trains and enforce speed restrictions.
Positive Train Control, which includes Amtrak’s system, is required by federal law to be installed on all passenger and major freight railroads by the end of this year.
But many railroads have asked for more time to install the expensive systems, and Congress is considering extending the deadline to 2020.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150514_Amtrak_Derailment__What_we_know.html#9yKZIBCsqMR6dJok.99
To: RayChuang88
After what happened in Japan in 2005 at the Amagasaki train crash west of Osaka that killed over 100 people due to excessive speed approaching a sharp curve, the West Japan Railway Company aggressively installed a lot more Automatic Train Stop (ATS) warning systems on the track. Maybe its time for the railroads on the Northeast Corridor to install ATS at every critical point on the track to prevent overspeeding, which may have caused this accident.It ought to be a lot simpler to engineer driverless trains than it is to do driverless cars or trucks that are currently all the rage.
To: factoryrat
The Acela Express tops out at 125mph....
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posted on
05/13/2015 10:26:09 AM PDT
by
SgtBob
(Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
To: factoryrat
A hundred mph is hard to believe. I dont know about the passenger locomotive models that Amtrak uses, but most locomotives have a top speed of 70mph. Also, there are usually onboard systems that limit the top speed of the locomotive, and will drop power and apply a penalty brake application if that speed is exceeded, and an engineer cannot override those systems.
Standard speed for Amtrak is 79mph. Acela Express trains reach 150mph in at least one location in the Northeast Corridor and conventional equipment is doing 110mph on sections in Illinois and Michigan.
Last night's derailment involved an Acela Regional train, which was pulled by a new (2013) Amtrak Cities Sprinter ACS-64 locomotive capable of 135mph, though these trains do no more than 125mph.
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