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To: Jacquerie

While I agree with you wholeheartedly, by the time the 17th Amendment is repealed, there will be no republic left. It is also questionable if it can be repealed. Many people have fallen for the mobocracy deception and think they control the legislators to get whatever they want while the exact opposite is true.

I fear there is no way to restore decency without first destroying indecency. If we tuck our tails because we fear the word “impeachment” and lack conviction to remove tyrannical judges, then I would suggest that moral decent America is done and good riddance. The sooner the fascist state collapses and is destroyed, the better.


36 posted on 07/09/2015 9:27:48 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta; Georgia Girl 2
It isn't a matter of tucking tail. It is a matter of our nature, which is something our Framing generation knew well. Few if any senators will risk their prestige, ambition and $ over something so mundane and quaint as the constitution.

If just doing the right, moral and virtuous “thing” could be relied upon, the Framers would have set up a simple democratic system. James Madison spoke at length on this subject. All agreed that men could not be trusted to be angels.

Instead they created a very complex system of interacting checks, balances, and most importantly division of power. The first and foremost division was the vertical separation of powers between the states and the government they created. Leaving the states out of a system that acts on them makes as much sense as removing the people from the system . . . no sense at all! The states would have never ratified the constitution had they not been represented in congress.

Repeal of the 17th isn't just a “nice thing to have,” it is essential that both the people and states participate in a government that acts upon them.

Not the New Deal, Great Society, Obama, nor dozens of horrible supreme court decisions could have happened if the states were still in the senate.

The 17th allowed all power to swirl into DC. It is now flowing like a river to the executive and judicial branches. If power is not once again diffused across the states, all effective authority will soon reside in the president. Elections will end up a pro-forma approval of an El Presidente.

Our institutions no longer serve their constitutional purposes. The question is: how can they be restored?

Article V before we can't.

39 posted on 07/09/2015 9:48:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V before we can't.)
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