Posted on 07/24/2015 12:07:39 AM PDT by Cronos
Britain’s greatest error was to have let any of the wogs in as the days of colonialism faded . Rule Britannia !
8 lessons that Tharoor’s electrifying Oxford speech teaches us about India’s history
Rediff.com India News, Friday, July 24, 2015
‘While British politicians continue to wonder whether countries like India should even get basic compensation, let’s remind them 200 years of injustice can’t be compensated for with any amount of money. What we need is a simple ‘sorry’, an apology for all the wrong.’
Lok Sabha Member of Parliament Shashi Tharoor’ s gripping speech at the Oxford Union Society (external link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4
has brought back afresh the wounds that the country faced during 200 years of colonization, and the need for repentance by the British, says Nalini Narayani
The motion of the debate was, “This house believes Britain owes reparations to her former colonies”, to which the MP gave detailed statistical evidence, driving home the point that why it was important to say ‘sorry’ for what they have done to us.
Tharoor’s oratory skills not just bring out the patriot in you but also teach you some important lessons about India’s history while it was under British rule. Here are some highlights:
1. Economic situation of the colonies was worsened by the experience of British colonialism. Our s(hr)inking handloom industry was a case in point. Our weavers, who used to make fine muslins as light as woven air, became beggars as the British broke their looms, imposed duties and tariffs on Indian cloth and even cut off their thumbs while replacing Indian textiles with cheaper fabric from satanic steam mills of Britain.
Our share of world exports fell from 27per cent to 2 per cent.
2. In short, British industrialisation took its strength from de-industrialisation in India.
3. With the earnings of their loot — a Hindi word for pillage, which found a place in their dictionaries as well as habits — in India, colonialists like Robert Clive bought their rotten boroughs in England. And the British had the gall to call him Clive of India as if he belonged to the country while all he did was to ensure that the country belonged to him.
4. By the end of the 19th century, India was Britain’s biggest cash cow, the world’s biggest purchaser of British exports and the source of highly paid employment for British civil servants.
5. During their rule, 15-29 million Indians died due to induced famines. The worst and the last large-scale was the Bengal famine of 1943 when around 4 million Bengalis died of starvation.
Winston Churchill ordered the diversion of food from starving Indians to well-supplied British soldiers and stockpiles in Europe. When he was intimated about the scale of tragedy caused by his decisions, Churchill’s peevish response was “Why hasn’t Gandhi died yet?”
6. Violence and racism were the reality. Jallianwala Bagh massacre where the unarmed protesters were blew to bits is the symbol of British despotism.
7. India contributed more soldiers to the wars than Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa put together. One sixth of the British forces were from the Indian subcontinent. Almost 800,000 soldiers took part in the war, around 53,000 Indian soldiers died, 64,000 were wounded and around 4000 went missing.
In 1945, India’s war contribution estimated to about 8 billion pounds in today’s money, while Britain owes 1.25 billion pounds war debt to India that it still hasn’t paid.
8. While Indian Railways is often referred as a gift by the British, it was actually built to benefit the rulers, to carry Indian raw materials to the ports so that they can be shipped to Britain. It was to serve colonial interests.
It was a scheme described at the time as private enterprise at public risk. Private British enterprise, public Indian risk.
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Source: http://www.folomojo.com/ Tags: Lok Sabha Member of Parliament Shashi, India, Oxford
India, one of the oldest civilizations on earth cannot yet find a way for their citizens defecate hygenically.
I'd like to know how in the world this guy could possibly know this was the case. Britain arrived in the 17th Century and there is no possible way anyone but God could have know what the worldwide GDP was in the 17th Century. Hell, worldwide GDP figures are suspect even now due to, among other things, govts that lie
This was also my same observation when I have visited there twice . I would go about puzzling “ these ppl have nukes !???”
This world is a mysterious place.
Ha ha.
UK now has to acquiesce to this utter nonsense because it would be racist not to.
UK is run by self righteous drug addled liberals.
They deserve anything they get.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Edward_Harry_Dyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Ge5RgkSO8
bad stuff....1919
As in the American colonies the British were well to
be hated . Yet they DID make a mistake throwing open
their immigration to hordes of former colonial subjects
the True westernised oriental gentlemen went back to being the elites back home -- think of Nehru, Jinnah, Lee Yuan (India, Pakistan, Singapore) who were more English than the English upper classes themselves
the Brits brought in poor, cheap labor in the 60s to work in their mills.
THAT was a mistake, but it was not gentlemen - it was uneducated workers from Mirpur -- and it was long after colonialism ended
It is a habit carried over 5000 years. May explain why the soil is very fertile there.
Well, firstly, home to one of the oldest civilisations on earth — I don’t believe there is a direct continuation from the Harappan civilisation to today. There were large gaps with new groups coming in: Aryans, Iranis, Greeks, Kushans, Yueh-zhi (Tocharians/White Huns/Hephthalites), Arabs, Mongol-turkic Mughals, Portuguese, then the french and English/Scottish
I stand corrected , thanks for the explanation
Secondly, while many are poor, there are also a middle class and education happening
Thirdly, India was rich before the Moghals -- these drained the states -- and the English took the money away, but were better than the Moghals
Finally: india took the path of socialism, which leads to failure and loss -- they just got rid of it but not completely
Also, At the Harappan times, the people (who I believe based on the gods, statue depictions and their locality) were related to or actually Dravidian peoples (who I believe, based on language and genes are related to the Elamites and Sumerians) -- they lived along the indus valley or in the deep south of India. the rest of india was a jungle
During the Aryan migrations until 300 BC the gangetic plain was jungle, systematically cut down for fields
the high fertility is due to the alluvial soil brought down from the himalayas by the great rivers
I believe the outside defecation is really since the invasions of the Moslems from the 9th century onwards
The Moslems are more heavily represented in jails while the others are heavily under-represented
British policies killed nearly 4 million Indians in the 1943-44 Bengal Famine
The Bengal Famine of 1943-44 must rank as the greatest disaster in the subcontinent in the 20th century. Nearly 4 million Indians died because of an artificial famine created by the British government, and yet it gets little more than a passing mention in Indian history books.
What is remarkable about the scale of the disaster is its time span. World War II was at its peak and the Germans were rampaging across Europe, targeting Jews, Slavs and the Roma for extermination. It took Adolf Hitler and his Nazi cohorts 12 years to round up and murder 6 million Jews, but their Teutonic cousins, the British, managed to kill almost 4 million Indians in just over a year, with Prime Minister Winston Churchill cheering from the sidelines.
Australian biochemist Dr Gideon Polya has called the Bengal Famine a manmade holocaust because Churchills policies were directly responsible for the disaster. Bengal had a bountiful harvest in 1942, but the British started diverting vast quantities of food grain from India to Britain, contributing to a massive food shortage in the areas comprising present-day West Bengal, Odisha, Bihar and Bangladesh.
Author Madhusree Mukerjee tracked down some of the survivors and paints a chilling picture of the effects of hunger and deprivation. In Churchills Secret War, she writes: Parents dumped their starving children into rivers and wells. Many took their lives by throwing themselves in front of trains. Starving people begged for the starchy water in which rice had been boiled. Children ate leaves and vines, yam stems and grass. People were too weak even to cremate their loved ones.
No one had the strength to perform rites, a survivor tells Mukerjee. Dogs and jackals feasted on piles of dead bodies in Bengals villages. The ones who got away were men who migrated to Calcutta for jobs and women who turned to prostitution to feed their families. Mothers had turned into murderers, village belles into whores, fathers into traffickers of daughters, writes Mukerjee.
Mani Bhaumik, the first to get a PhD from the IITs and whose invention of excimer surgery enabled Lasik eye surgery, has the famine etched in his memory. His grandmother starved to death because she used to give him a portion of her food.
By 1943 hordes of starving people were flooding into Calcutta, most dying on the streets. The sight of well-fed white British soldiers amidst this apocalyptic landscape was the final judgement on British rule in India, said the Anglophile Jawaharlal Nehru.
Churchill could easily have prevented the famine. Even a few shipments of food grain would have helped, but the British prime minister adamantly turned down appeals from two successive Viceroys, his own Secretary of State for India and even the President of the US .
Subhas Chandra Bose, who was then fighting on the side of the Axis forces, offered to send rice from Myanmar, but the British censors did not even allow his offer to be reported.
Churchill was totally remorseless in diverting food to the British troops and Greek civilians. To him, the starvation of anyhow underfed Bengalis (was) less serious than sturdy Greeks, a sentiment with which Secretary of State for India and Burma, Leopold Amery, concurred.
Amery was an arch-colonialist and yet he denounced Churchills Hitler-like attitude. Urgently beseeched by Amery and the then Viceroy Archibald Wavell to release food stocks for India, Churchill responded with a telegram asking why Gandhi hadnt died yet.
Wavell informed London that the famine was one of the greatest disasters that has befallen any people under British rule. He said when Holland needs food, ships will of course be available, quite a different answer to the one we get whenever we ask for ships to bring food to India.
Churchills excuse currently being peddled by his family and supporters was Britain could not spare the ships to transport emergency supplies, but Mukerjee has unearthed documents that challenge his claim. She cites official records that reveal ships carrying grain from Australia bypassed India on their way to the Mediterranean.
Churchills hostility toward Indians has long been documented. At a War Cabinet meeting, he blamed the Indians themselves for the famine, saying they breed like rabbits. His attitude toward Indians may be summed up in his words to Amery: I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. On another occasion, he insisted they were the beastliest people in the world next to the Germans.
According to Mukerjee, Churchills attitude toward India was quite extreme, and he hated Indians, mainly because he knew India couldnt be held for very long. She writes in The Huffington Post, Churchill regarded wheat as too precious a food to expend on non-whites, let alone on recalcitrant subjects who were demanding independence from the British Empire. He preferred to stockpile the grain to feed Europeans after the war was over.
In October 1943, at the peak of the famine, Churchill said at a lavish banquet to mark Wavells appointment: When we look back over the course of years, we see one part of the worlds surface where there has been no war for three generations. Famines have passed away until the horrors of war and the dislocations of war have given us a taste of them again and pestilence has gone This episode in Indian history will surely become the Golden Age as time passes, when the British gave them peace and order, and there was justice for the poor, and all men were shielded from outside dangers.
Churchill was not only a racist but also a liar.
A history of holocausts
To be sure, Churchills policy towards famine-stricken Bengal wasnt any different from earlier British conduct in India. In Late Victorian Holocausts, Mike Davis points out that here were 31 serious famines in 120 years of British rule compared with 17 in the 2,000 years before British rule.
In his book, Davis tells the story of the famines that killed up to 29 million Indians. These people were, he says, murdered by British State policy. In 1876, when drought destituted the farmers of the Deccan plateau, there was a net surplus of rice and wheat in India. But the Viceroy, Robert Bulwer-Lytton, insisted that nothing should prevent their export to England.
In 1877 and 1878, at the height of the famine, grain merchants exported record quantities of grain. As the peasants began to starve, government officials were ordered to discourage relief works in every possible way. The only relief permitted in most districts was hard labour, from which anyone in an advanced state of starvation was turned away. Within these labour camps, the workers were given less food than the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald, the Nazi concentration camp of World War II.
Even as millions died, Lytton ignored all efforts to alleviate the suffering of millions of peasants in the Madras region and concentrated on preparing for Queen Victorias investiture as Empress of India. The highlight of the celebrations was a week-long feast at which 68,000 dignitaries heard her promise the nation happiness, prosperity and welfare.
In 1901, The Lancet estimated that at least 19 million Indians had died in western India during the famine of the 1890s. The death toll was so high because the British refused to implement famine relief. Davis says life expectancy in India fell by 20 percent between 1872 and 1921.
So its hardly surprising that Hitlers favourite film was The Lives of a Bengal Lancer, which showed a handful of Britons holding a continent in thrall. The Nazi leader told the then British Foreign Secretary Edward Wood (Earl of Halifax) that it was one of his favorite films because that was how a superior race must behave and the film was compulsory viewing for the SS (Schutz-Staffel, the Nazi protection squadron).
Crime and consequences
While Britain has offered apologies to other nations, such as Kenya for the Mau Mau massacre, India continues to have such genocides swept under the carpet. Other nationalities have set a good example for us. Israel, for instance, cannot forget the Holocaust; neither will it let others, least of all the Germans. Germany continues to dole out hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and arms aid to Israel.
Armenia cannot forget the Great Crime the systematic massacre of 1.8 million Armenians by the Turks during World War I. The Poles cannot forget Joseph Stalins Katyn massacre.
The Chinese want a clear apology and reparations from the Japanese for at least 40,000 killed and raped in Nanking during World War II. And then there is the bizarre case of the Ukrainians, who like to call a famine caused by Stalins economic policies as genocide, which it clearly was not. They even have a word for it: Holodomor.
And yet India alone refuses to ask for reparations, let alone an apology. Could it be because the British were the last in a long list of invaders, so why bother with an England suffering from post-imperial depression? Or is it because Indias English-speaking elites feel beholden to the British? Or are we simply a nation condemned to repeating our historical mistakes? Perhaps we forgive too easily.
But forgiveness is different from forgetting, which is what Indians are guilty of. It is an insult to the memory of millions of Indians whose lives were snuffed out in artificial famines.
British attitudes towards Indians have to seen in the backdrop of Indias contribution to the Allied war campaign. By 1943, more than 2.5 million Indian soldiers were fighting alongside the Allies in Europe, Africa and Southeast Asia. Vast quantities of arms, ammunition and raw materials sourced from across the country were shipped to Europe at no cost to Britain.
Britains debt to India is too great to be ignored by either nation. According to Cambridge University historians Tim Harper and Christopher Bayly, It was Indian soldiers, civilian labourers and businessmen who made possible the victory of 1945. Their price was the rapid independence of India.
There is not enough wealth in all of Europe to compensate India for 250 years of colonial loot. Forget the money, do the British at least have the grace to offer an apology? Or will they, like Churchill, continue to delude themselves that English rule was Indias Golden Age?
http://www.tehelka.com/2014/06/remembering-indias-forgotten-holocaust/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/10/how_churchill_starved_india.html
If you don’t like being colonized, throw off the invaders. Otherwise, STFU and assimilate.
I suspect this clown is pulling a lot of his "facts" out of his posterior. The plain truth is England, like it did to all its colonies, gave India a lot more than it took. Without British law and the introduction of modern technology, India is a third world country stuck in a medieval kind of existence.
Many millions of Indians still live a very primitive existence and practice barbaric customs. Burning "witches" for example. And I believe India still practices the caste system. I don't think this idiot should be throwing stones about racist Brits.
Britain certainly made major mistakes with some of its colonies (Ireland for example), but it gave a lot more than it took...mostly civilization to previously backwards countries.
And of course India had its own wars as well with millions killed. During the late forties Hindus and Muslims were responsible for millions of deaths.
If there was no western influence, India is still living five hundred years ago. With its caste system and periodic starvation. So spare me the tears.
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