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To: Red Steel
What's interesting to me is the "anti-establishment" presence in that poll. Trump at 15%, Paul at 11% = 26% for anti-establishment candidates, with Bush representing the establishment at 11%.

Once Ted Cruz begins to ascend the polls (and he is bound to after the first couple of debates), and even Scott Walker, there will be a solid voting bloc which will have the more establishment candidates quaking in their boots.

Walker is from such a liberal state, that he may have some difficulty establishing his conservative bona fides, but given what he has done in putting the unions in their place, I do hope that he begins to gain some traction as well.

Come to think of it, the "kooks" and "extremists" (the ones that all the leftists and mainstream media are deriding) are going to make a big impression on the electorate, and, for the most part, a positive impression, IMHO.

And what will the Democratic party be offering in Hillary? Nothing but the same old tired, failed establishment liberal policies.

I really think that Hillary's timing is just totally wrong.

I'm beginning to perceive a national movement which will unite voters from all over the political spectrum.

I think that there is something very profound brewing with respect to the 2016 Presidential election, and I think that if the Democrats depend on this demographic advantage that they supposedly hold, they are going to be sorely surprised at just how little that is going to matter. There's going to be a patriotic awakening which will reach into many formerly reliable liberal demographics.

Maybe, just maybe, the People will realize that their race, religion, age, sex, and economic status is not the most important thing when electing a new President. What is most is important is doing what's best for America as a whole.

I'm starting to feel very encouraged about this election cycle, and I sincerely hope that the Trumps, Cruzes, Pauls, Walkers, and their ilk are going to, collectively, help usher in a new era of American pride and prosperity.

And those who want to sit around and bad-mouth certain candidates simply because they don't agree with them on every single issue are going to be left standing on the sidelines, mouth agape, while the rest of us move this nation forward.

Jeb and Hillary have picked the wrong time to be Establishment Party candidates, IMHO. I believe the American People are looking for anything other than such candidates.

No matter who our individual favorites happen to be, let's all hope and pray that that's the case.

Jeb Bush was my governor here in Florida, and did a passable job, but he's literally almost the last Republican I'd like to see win the nomination. I could care less about Jeb and Hillary's name recognition, and I think much of the populace will be in agreement on that factor this time around.

85 posted on 07/24/2015 11:18:06 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon

I like your thoughtful analysis and agree but as I keep pointing out you forgot the one element we all forget every time until we get kicked in the teeth every four years. Rat fraud in Florida and Ohio. Any GOP nominee will have to have at least a ten point margin in those states. Frankly, I think it is impossible. I pray I am wrong. The real question we need to prepare ourselves for is what are we going to do the next day. Will we sit on our collective asses and let them swear Hillary in?


88 posted on 07/25/2015 12:25:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: sargon
Sargon wrote: "What's interesting to me is the "anti-establishment" presence in that poll. Trump at 15%, Paul at 11% = 26% for anti-establishment candidates, with Bush representing the establishment at 11%."

That's the July 4-6 data. Trump is at 28% now. So your "anti-establishment" presence (Trump+Paul) according to current data is 33%. From the article:

"The latest poll was taken between the 18th and 20th. Two of those days occurred after Trump’s McCain comments. Regardless, Trump not only held on to first place, he surged to 28% support. Bush came in second with just 14%. Walker came in third with 13%."

Chart from yougov.com:


89 posted on 07/25/2015 12:50:25 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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