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DO WE NEED THE RIGHT LEADERS, OR THE RIGHT PEOPLE?
Frontpagemag.com ^ | August 4, 2015 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 08/04/2015 3:28:14 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: cripplecreek
I hope you're wrong, and fear you may be right. We need to seek wisdom at this point.

Patience. Things will become more clear.

21 posted on 08/04/2015 4:41:20 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Biggirl

George Washington, tight lipped and disciplined Virginia aristocrat, Free Mason and Judeophile, would not have a chance of being elected president by today’s American electorate. Our system of government, as John Adams so correctly pointed out, was designed for an honest, industrious, educated, and God fearing people. Some of us are still all those things. But this republic can’t properly function populated by a dishonest, proudly ignorant and faithless, pleasure obsessed rabble. What populates the government (they cannot seriously be called leaders), at all levels, is a reflection not a cause.


22 posted on 08/04/2015 4:51:59 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Biggirl

“More important, they wonder why the House isn’t using the power of the purse, which the Constitution gave it precisely in order to check a tyrannical government.”

Constitution? CONgre$$?

Go figure.

Politicians from both sides of the aisle should be locked up in prison for financial crimes against the citizens of the republic.

THEY DID build this…enslaving us, our children and grandchildren…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

All assets should be seized.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder. - The Law; Bastiat

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt…

7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game…

Rules for Changing a Limited Republican Government into an Unlimited Hereditary One…

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks…

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/freneau/republic2monarchy.htm

Debates in the House of Representatives on the First Report on Public Credit 9–18 February 1790
James Jackson (Ga.)

But it is doubted with me whether a permanent funded debt is beneficial or not to any country.

The same effect must be produced that has taken place in other nations; it must either bring on a national bankruptcy or annihilate her existence as an independent empire. Hence I contend, sir, that a funding system, in this country, will be highly dangerous to the welfare of the republic; it may, for a moment, raise our credit and increase the circulation, by multiplying a new species of currency; but it must, in times afterward, settle upon our posterity a burthen which they can neither bear nor relieve themselves from. It will establish a precedent in America that may, and in all probability will, be pursued by the sovereign authority until it brings upon us that ruin which it has never failed to bring, or is inevitably bringing, upon all the nations of the earth who have had the temerity to make the experiment.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/875


23 posted on 08/04/2015 5:00:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Biggirl

Trump is the ONLY one that is not owned by big daddy donors and lobbyists . Amazing so many people even here still brainwashed by politicians.


24 posted on 08/04/2015 5:04:45 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama will use Obamatrade to import hundreds of millions of 3rd world people into the U.S.)
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To: Biggirl
Trump is the ONLY one that is not owned by big daddy donors and lobbyists . Amazing so many people even here still brainwashed by politicians.

What politician doesn't take donations or not talk to lobbyists and doesn't want to advance his political career?

Only Trump as he has 10 billion dollars.

Almost all the politicians voted for the worst thing ever this obama trade bs that increases 3rd world immigration to the nth power (”trade in services”)

25 posted on 08/04/2015 5:08:37 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama will use Obamatrade to import hundreds of millions of 3rd world people into the U.S.)
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Mr. Trump is speaking what needs to be spoken and he is pushing the others who are running to start to speak out on the issues for a change.

They're still doing poli-speak and saying what we want to hear.

What Trump is offering is leadership. Reagan was a leader. Bill Clinton, for all his faults, was a leader. Now, the DC crowd is almost 100% eunuchs who don't know how to bring people together and find solutions.

That's what Trump's appeal is about. He leads. Everyone bringing up specific issues is swatting at flies. Besides that we don't believe a word of what pols say.

26 posted on 08/04/2015 5:23:12 AM PDT by grania
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FWIW, I’d place a bet that if Trump goes third party and its hillary vs Jeb, Trump wins.


27 posted on 08/04/2015 5:25:11 AM PDT by grania
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And he’ll continue to get that help until he feigns “outrage” at “disrespect” from the GOP and launches a 3rd party to divide the anti-Hillary vote.

This third party talk is silly. Why would the man lapping the field drop out? The first votes are months away. Meanwhile, enjoy the show.

28 posted on 08/04/2015 5:57:38 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (Just scream and leap.)
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"Rather, Mr. Trump is speaking what needs to be spoken and he is pushing the others who are running to start to speak out on the issues for a change."

For some reason, the arrival of Trump on the scene has caused Freepers to develop sudden amnesia where Ted Cruz is concerned.

Cruz has never needed "pushing" from anyone to speak out on the issues, much less some bloviating reality-show celebrity. Ted has been in the trenches, fighting, since his days as Solicitor General of Texas. And do I really need to remind you of his work in the Senate?

29 posted on 08/04/2015 6:38:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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"But .. He says things that make people feel good... kind of reminiscent of 2008."

Yesterday I read an old New Yorker magazine interview with Trump. It was a long read, but it served to confirm everything I've ever suspected about him.

He's a narcissist who makes up crap so that he'll look good, and who makes grand promises which are never delivered.

He brags endlessly about how wonderful he is, how special, how much people love him, and his accomplishments that are second to none. He goes on and on about his apartment being the greatest in the world, and speaks of himself in the third person.

Especially illuminating was Trump's comment that he always complicates things as much as he can so no one can figure out what he's up to. A deputy mayor of NYC said that he wouldn't believe a word Donald Trump said even if his tongue were notarized.

It just floors me...day after day...that conservatives have fallen under this shyster's spell.

30 posted on 08/04/2015 7:00:35 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Biggirl

The hard part about governing the Executive Branch is that you have to be a great politician to get there.

Ideally, I think the best leader of the Executive Branch would be someone who has similar experience. A Governor is probably the closest we can come to this.

I also believe that business executive experience is critical. There’s nothing like the eye-opening experience of having to make a payroll.

That doesn’t mean that someone who wasn’t a Governor or business executive couldn’t be a good President. But, that person would have to prepare for the job.

Obama didn’t, and look at the miserable job he’s done.

I think the next President has to straighten out the Executive Branch. I think that would be a good job for a fully-empowered Vice President.


31 posted on 08/04/2015 7:01:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grania

And I would bet Trump doesn’t win.


32 posted on 08/04/2015 7:08:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: Biggirl

Both.


33 posted on 08/04/2015 12:15:55 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: blueunicorn6

The best Presidents are those who were or are Governors.

Now we are seeing those who managed a business stand go for that challenge.

Unless you have a good principled Senator such as a Cruz or even a Paul, a Senator would be last choice.


34 posted on 08/04/2015 12:20:05 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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