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To: Little Ray

That’s what I’ve always wanted to know about this.

This “agreement” or “arrangement” is not an official treaty.

They did some half baked congressional vote at the behest of Obama, so that this is not an official treaty, which would require a 2/3 vote in the Senate to be legally binding.

But since whatever comes about will not be legally binding, the next Republican president can simply rescind this on Jan. 20, 2017, right????


9 posted on 08/16/2015 9:42:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The GOP aren't reigning in the Pres because they want the power if they ever take the office.

The only Constitutional power a Pres can do concerning foreign affairs is enter into a Treaty, all this agreement $hit as outside the bounds of the Constitution.

13 posted on 08/16/2015 9:48:36 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I does not matter how official it is or is not. A few understand now, this President IS ruling by Decree. There is no Republic except in the structure that is still on paper. For the time being the USA is an Elective Dictatorship. For the time being.


14 posted on 08/16/2015 9:48:55 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Not as easy as you think. Countries are lining up for trade agreements.....many are done deals already.

And once Obama releases the billions held because they ARE ....cough cough....WERE.. a terrorist state, they're not going to give it back.

15 posted on 08/16/2015 9:49:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Given that a ‘Pubbie Congress gave Obama what he wanted, I doubt that any Establishment ‘Pubbie will reverse this. That is why I specified “with a pair.” After all, the vast majority of DC ‘Pubbies long ago had their spines and gonads removed.


16 posted on 08/16/2015 9:49:48 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
But since whatever comes about will not be legally binding, the next Republican president can simply rescind this on Jan. 20, 2017, right????

Maybe. The deal was deliberately framed as "A Non-Binding Executive Agreement." It was then submitted to the U.N. Security Council and approved. If Congress disapproves the deal and doesn't lift sanctions, we'll be accused of "violating the spirit" of a U.N. resolution that "calls upon all member states " to refrain from "actions that undermine implementation of commitments" made in the deal.

As pundit Clifford D. May writes: "...it would be a grave mistake [for Congress] to set the precedent that the U.N. Security Council -- including such permanent members as Russia, China and such non-permanent members as Venezuela and Chad -- constitute a global government with the power to make significant decisions for the American people while the elected representatives of the American people are marginalized. If that isn't technically a surrender of American sovereignty, it certainly opens that door -- and, I'm afraid, removes the remaining hinges."

Of course surrender of American sovereignty to a socialist world government under the U.N. is precisely what Obama and Hari-Kerry have had in mind all along.

36 posted on 08/16/2015 11:04:05 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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