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To: Tennessee Nana

So are you saying the US Supreme Court would support a law overturning birthright citizenship? Because until you can get the Supreme Court to do that then we are stuck with the current interpretation. As of now this is the law “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” With some exceptions in case law for diplomats and such, the US Supreme Court continues to support birthright citizenship. So yes, you’d either need a constitutional amendment (ain’t gonna happen) or better judges. Probably better to go the latter route.


37 posted on 08/16/2015 1:08:25 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,


40 posted on 08/16/2015 1:10:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Longbow1969

The Scrotus can’t make law from the bench you ignorant fark stick.


45 posted on 08/16/2015 1:13:39 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (STERILIZE OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Longbow1969

With some exceptions in case law for diplomats
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When you see a foreign diplomat sue the US for granting citizenship to the anchor babies of illegal aliens while denying the children of persons invited here to represent their country, then you can say again what you tried to say..

But foreign diplomats know that illegal aliens cant claim American citizenship for their children either...


46 posted on 08/16/2015 1:14:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Longbow1969
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” With some exceptions in case law for diplomats and such, the US Supreme Court continues to support birthright citizenship.

There are a couple of angles here on why a Supreme Court decision wouldn't have the final say:

  1. That inconvenient phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof isn't just there for cosmetic purposes.
  2. One of the exceptions in case law for diplomats and such also include children born to invading armies (for obvious reasons) and those born to foreign nationals here on tourist visas.

    It is a long stretch to argue that children born of foreign parents legally present in the country on non-resident visas have inferior claim to citizenship that those born of foreign parents illegal present, but we've seen the supreme court twists the law anyway which happens to be fashionable at the moment.

    Congress does, however, have the power to reorganize the courts or to even declare certain topics such as birthright citizenship, off limits to them.

    Mexico also makes it clear by what they teach in their own school classrooms that they consider the territory ceded in the Mexican War to be null and void and they encourage colonization of the area as part of a reconquest. That makes their colonization a defacto invading army.


104 posted on 08/16/2015 2:51:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Longbow1969
Quick question for clarity's sake.

If foreign soldiers invaded this county, and the females had babies while here, would we consider the babies citizens?

How about invading hordes?

123 posted on 08/16/2015 4:13:46 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Longbow1969

What if it became an order to deport all illegal alien parents of children born here? The parents would have a choice to either take the child with them or leave them behind. And if left behind, the child would have to go to a child welfare unit, or to a family of legal residents. Nothing would be said about the anchor babies having to leave the country. It would be their parents that would have to leave.


184 posted on 08/18/2015 12:43:53 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Longbow1969

Illegals are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

Their jurisdiction is the country for which they are citizens.


194 posted on 09/27/2019 7:36:22 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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