Posted on 09/10/2015 7:43:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
“his Day One Plan for the White House”
A day that will never happen. :-)
Can’t happen fast enough. Go Gov. Walker’s end of USG unions.
Repeal the Wagner Act and that becomes moot. The only reason employers invented that dodge in the first place was because the Wagner Act forbids more than one union representing the same job types in a union shop. Having a "company union" blocked real unions from organizing in the shop, but only because of the federal statute.
Earth to Carry_Okie. You are ignoring reality. It is being enforced now and it has not been ruled unconstitutional. In fact SCOTUS ruled in favcr of AZ, which made e-verify mandatory.
You obviously don't know very much about the Constitution.
You are living in a fantasy world if you choose to ignore the reality of our existing laws. There is nothing in the Constitution about SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacart, gay marriage, abortion, etc. You can dismiss them by saying they are not in the Constitution, yet I bet you pay your FICA payments.
I don't give a damn if it works. There are better ways to deal with illegals. I don't want the Federal government possessing an infrastructure capable of denying employment. What makes you think they can't change the determinant? Just attach a database of known patriots to e-Verify and VOILA! I don't want them to possess that unconstitutional power.
It is illegal to hire illegal aliens and it is illegal for them to work. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) required employers to verify that all newly hired employees present "facially valid" documentation verifying the employee's identity and legal authorization to accept employment in the United States.
The I-9 form or more properly the Employment Eligibility Verification Form is provided by the federal government for that purpose. Every employee hired after November 6, 1986 must complete an I-9 form at the time of hire. Employees must complete Section 1 of the form at the actual beginning of employment. The employer must complete Section 2 within three days of starting work.[1] The employer is responsible for ensuring that the forms are completed properly, and in a timely manner. The I-9 is not required for unpaid volunteers or for contractors.[1] However, a company could still find itself liable if it contracts work to a company knowing that the contractor employs unauthorized workers.
E-verify is intended to prevent I-9 fraud. It also protects the employer. Once an employee goes thru e-verify, a response that takes seconds, then the employer is off the hook should it be learned that the employee is here illegally. Why shouldn't an employer use a verification system that prevents illegal aliens from taking American jobs? We should be shutting off the job magnet to reduce the flood of illegal aliens.
Are you against leveraging state and local law enforcement to check on the immigration status of some one they arrest for a crime?
What is your better way of preventing illegal aliens or in some cases, legal aliens, from working illegally in the US? Are you a Libertarian? You sure sound like one.
You'll gain something in our conversation once you realize that this isn't about what I don't know. It's about that I do know and don't like it a bit. The bankruptcy laws are legitimate. By Trump's dishonest manipulation of them, it's his CHARACTER that becomes at issue.
LOL. You make allegations without providing the facts of exactly what Trump did dishonestly and how he manipulated the bankruptcy laws. If it was dishonest, why wasn't he charged with a crime? You are engaged in CHARACTER ASSASINATION.
LOL, and you presume to know what a huge employer of illegals thinks qualifies as "good"? Fool.?
There you go again making baseless allegations. What facts do you have that Trump is a "huge employer of illegals?" And what is laughable is that you are the guy who doesn't want I-9s or e-verify because you don't believe it is the responsibility of the employer.
It really doesn't matter how Trump defines "good" because as President, he would be enforcing the laws, not making them. Read the Constitution. Congress would have to pass immigration reforms including any eligibility requirements for deported aliens to apply for return. Illegal aliens have committed multiple crimes beyond illegal entry, e.g., identity theft, tax evasion, working illegally, lying on employment forms, misusing or stealing SSNs, etc. Many of these are felonies.
Words he can rescind on a whim, just like his promises to pay his creditors. See: "CHARACTER." You know what that means, don't you?
So can any of the other candidates. They lie to us all of the time. Trump has more character than the drunken, low-lives that roam the halls of Congress sucking at the taxpayers' teat.
No, you don't. You think a lifelong Democrat changes his stripes in one meeting. Yet you ignore the signs of truth leaking from the Donald's lips. All you really have is wishful thinking for which you'll sell out a lifetime of consistency for what you want to hear.
Trump was not a lifelong Democrat any more than Reagan was. You are the one engaged in wishful thinking. Trump has never held elective office. He has not sold his soul to corporate paymasters. Do you hold your nose every time to vote for the lesser of two evils? Where has consistency gotten us?
We have a GOP controlled Congress that has surrendered to Obama after all kinds of promises to get elected or reelected. The Iran Deal is just the latest sellout. If it is as big a threat to national security as the Reps all say, then why are they not taking extraordinary measures to stop it including using the power of the purse, changing the rules of the Senate like Reid did to get the confirmations they wanted, etc.
Again, you don't understand how e-verify works. E-Verify is an Internet-based system that compares information from an employee's Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, to data from U.S. Department of Homeland Security and Social Security Administration records to confirm employment eligibility.
E-Verify's most impressive features are its speed and accuracy. E-Verify is the only free, fast, online service of its kind that verifies employees' data against millions of government records and provides results within as little as three to five seconds.
Today, E-Verify is:
Used nationwide by more than 600,000 employers of all sizes
Used at more than 1.9 million hiring sites
Joined by about 1,400 new participating companies every week
One of the federal government’s highest-rated services for customer satisfaction.
So what exactly would private entities do that isn't being done now? Do you want a private entity to have access to the SS and DHS data bases?
Imagine the power to deny employment in the hands of Commander Xero. Do you really think he wouldn't use that database to harm conservatives? This is why we do not allow POWER to accrue to government, because it is so easily misused. When this country was founded, THE PEOPLE WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT. My suggestion is we move in that direction once again. It would simultaneously improve our laws (because citizens would have to deal with them) and reduce tyrannical behavior by institutional law enforcement.
The system is in use now on a voluntary basis. Obama is not denying anyone employment. We should be denying illegal aliens employment and cracking down on employers that hire them. That is the law just like deportation is the law. Do you support sanctuary cities? Local authorities refuse to cooperate with the federal government on immigration matters in contravention of the law. Are these local tyrants?
Think about it instead of just assuming someone who has been here fifteen years is stupid.
You could be here 15 years or 15 minutes and be considered stupid. It is not a function of time.
Referring to Walker? Why should he. The primaries haven’t even started— not for several months. But I am sure you and your hero Trump wish Walker would go away. Down the road he may jeopardize the Big Mouth Big Boy.
Show me an enumerated power for the Federal government to put a halt to any kind of employment contract. It's not in Article I.
In fact SCOTUS ruled in favcr of AZ, which made e-verify mandatory.
SCOTUS has made all kinds of unconstitutional rulings, or are you forgetting that mandatory insurance contract they found a way to call a tax despite the fact that the bill arose in the Senate. They don't have a power over marriage contracts either.
You are living in a fantasy world if you choose to ignore the reality of our existing laws.
The fantasy is the legality of those "laws."
There is nothing in the Constitution about SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacart, gay marriage, abortion, etc. You can dismiss them by saying they are not in the Constitution, yet I bet you pay your FICA payments.
They are illegal. This is a government of "we the people." If we the people go along, we will deserve what we will get just as soon as another Barack Obama gets his paws on a power like e-Verify, or worse. I'm not going along.
It is illegal to hire illegal aliens and it is illegal for them to work.
There is nothing wrong with that. The problem is with the powers necessary for this particular means of enforcement. There are more effective and Constitutional means to deal with the crime of hiring an illegal. You want agencies to do it. I want the people to do it.
What is your better way of preventing illegal aliens or in some cases, legal aliens, from working illegally in the US? Are you a Libertarian? You sure sound like one.
Get them out of the country.
Step 1: Put a bounty on illegals with a letter of marque and reprisal. You'll find that in Article I, Section 8.
Step 2: Institute any necessary additional laws that criminalize harassing a legal alien or citizen with heavy penalties for false arrest.
Step 3: Put instructional materials on the web for how to make a legal arrest: standards of evidence, procedural requirements, humane treatment, the whole bit.
Step 4: Effect online testing for certification as a Deputy Marshall toward the end of Step 1.
Step 5: For every alien in the US entering legally, put their photo, country of origin, last known address, stated purpose of entry, place of entry, entry date, and visa, green card, etc. expiration date online... Aliens have no expectation of Fourth Amendment protections.
Note: There was not a single unconstitutional violation of anybody's privacy or UNALIENABLE right to free association (aka "work"). There were no traps for sole proprietors (such as contractors) who couldn't handle the paperwork or the electronics.
For those who cannot take that risk and cannot afford the cost of compliance under IRCA, there are already companies marketing legal employees. Under this system, they would need insurance to deal with the cost of a mistake. The market would quickly find the equilibrium between the risk of error, the price of premiums, and the cost of validation. With people posing as illegals to collect a bounty, they'd be wise to do so.
If it was dishonest, why wasn't he charged with a crime?
Because it is so hard to prove and he has so much money that it is unaffordable for an enforcing agency to prosecute such a case.
You are engaged in CHARACTER ASSASINATION.
Nonsense. The Donald did that, just like he did when he told his first wife "til death do us part." (Please use the spell check provided.)
There you go again making baseless allegations. What facts do you have that Trump is a "huge employer of illegals?"
Baseless? Sheesh. Trump is competitive in the hotel, golf course, and construction business. Those industries employ hordes of illegals, from laborers, to groundskeepers, to maids and busboys and you know it. It would be economic suicide not to in this environment. Trump is therefore apparently no exception.
“The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. “And we’re all here working very hard to build a better life for our families.”
Interviews with about 15 laborers helping renovate the Old Post Office Pavilion revealed that many of them had crossed the U.S-Mexico border illegally before they eventually settled in the Washington region to build new lives.
Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs targeting Central Americans fleeing civil wars or natural disasters. Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.
“Most of the concern is that this escalates into a bigger problem,” said Daniel Gonzalez, 45, a sheet metal worker from El Salvador who crossed the border in the 1980s to escape his country’s civil war. He became a U.S. citizen after a federal immigration judge granted him asylum, he said.
Then there is the little matter of sub-contractors. When I built my house and when I was a project manager we stipulated that our subs would be compliant in the contract language. In the nine years I was doing that kind of work, I can think of but one person who was even questionable and he was on the jobsite for only one day.
Trump was not a lifelong Democrat any more than Reagan was.
Post a horseshit "parallel" like that again and you won't even get a reply. Reagan had a long history as a conservative with a demonstrated record of two terms as California governor. Trump has made some of his leftist comments within the last year or two and continues to remain vague about the details of how he plans to do what he says he will do. Then there's that "phone call" to Clinton just before he announced. Such weasel words and deeds used to get conservative hackles up. Ah, but love is blind.
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