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Why Marines, unlike Army and Navy, are so against women in combat
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 09/11/2015 | By Anna Mulrine

Posted on 09/15/2015 10:54:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The Marines made it known this week that they see the idea of women in combat as a disaster waiting to happen. That contrasts sharply with how the Army has approached the topic. It puts the Pentagon in a potentially tough spot.

Washington — This week, the Marine Corps left very little doubt about its view of women in its combat ranks: It does not want them.

A study by the corps released Thursday painted a bleak picture of the effectiveness of women in combat, suggesting they are weaker, more prone to injury, less adept at shooting weapons accurately, and their presence was a potential catastrophe for unit morale.

The day before, an opinion article penned by a retired Marine Corps general suggested that the “mysterious chemistry that forms in an infantry unit” included “clearing the urinals” and “nights of hilarious debauchery” – precluding women.

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1 posted on 09/15/2015 10:54:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

So many jabs to take at the Ain’t Ready for Marines Yet (ARMY) but I will defer...


2 posted on 09/15/2015 10:57:11 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd

the O plan is to completely weaken American defenses at all levels

if any Marines are holding out, they will be ‘scandalized’ and replaced with enemy agents ASAP

rest assured any patriotism or desire to defend America will NOT be tolerated

elections have consequences, you know


3 posted on 09/15/2015 10:58:54 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: Responsibility2nd
it promotes and seeks to maintain a bygone era.

a bygone era when the military was designed to effectively defend the USA and project power effectively abroad.

4 posted on 09/15/2015 11:01:53 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Common sense??


5 posted on 09/15/2015 11:02:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Responsibility2nd
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.

Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army

6 posted on 09/15/2015 11:02:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arthurus

The Israeli Army gave up having women in combat units. What makes us so much smarter?


7 posted on 09/15/2015 11:03:33 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

As I recall the IDF sent the sexually integrated units into battle and within hours determined it was a no-go and pulled all the women back. Israel is intent on winning military engagements. the US is intent on ceding power and real estate to whatever enemies it can find or create.


8 posted on 09/15/2015 11:06:03 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

As one who has served in both the Marines and the Army, I can honestly say that the two are VERY different.

My entire time in the Corp was in units with no women. We had very few problems. When I joined the army my first unit was all men (combat engineer). We had few problems. Then someone got the brilliant idea to add women to the mix and we had a whole bunch of issues almost immediately.

I am close to believing that women don’t belong in the Corps at all except my wife was in the Marines also. As for combat, women do not belong in it (my wife agrees). Aside from the incredible physical differences between the sexes there is also the emotional difference.


9 posted on 09/15/2015 11:07:27 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: Oldexpat

... we have a muslim in our white house?


10 posted on 09/15/2015 11:09:29 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sure, try to imagine women on Guadalcanal slugging it out with the Japs, hand to hand, in the tropical conditions, taking the casualties they did, where at times the actions of a single man made the difference between holding the line or collapsing with wave after wave of Japs throwing themselves at what is left of your defensive lines. I can’t.


11 posted on 09/15/2015 11:09:37 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is an easy fix to this. Have platoons made up of only women. And platoons of only men. Figure out what happens when they go against each other through extensive drills etc. Then if the women can compete with the men, its time to change the olympics and get rid of women only events.


12 posted on 09/15/2015 11:12:51 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve said it before:

A civilized nation does not send its women into combat.


13 posted on 09/15/2015 11:15:35 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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You said:

"Then if the women can compete with the men, its time to change the olympics and get rid of women only events."

14 posted on 09/15/2015 11:18:01 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Oldexpat; arthurus; central_va; faithhopecharity

This reminds me of an essay I sent to the United States Naval Institute they didn’t publish when the issue was DADT.

“Yet military operations are not conducted in garrison, and offer no opportunities for off duty or private time. The current law recognizes maintaining high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion requires extraordinary restrictions. All military organizations exist to serve operating military personnel locked in small task oriented units, forward deployed, and continuously facing extraordinary stress if not actual combat. At the pointy end of the spear, they face environments characterized by sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Such environments are inherently chaotic and brittle and can only be overcome by totalitarian leadership unimaginable in pacific situations, but mandatory throughout the military.”


15 posted on 09/15/2015 11:18:11 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe if the Marines were men first then turned into bruce jenner.


16 posted on 09/15/2015 11:20:04 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: fishtank

Jenner is a man. A man who wears makeup and had his you know what cut off.... but genetically, he’s still a man.


17 posted on 09/15/2015 11:20:09 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: fishtank
A civilized nation does not send its women into combat.

Certainly not one with any Faith or Natural Law based moral compass!

We are being continually betrayed by those in the grips of an Egalitarian compulsion.

Feminist Delusion.

18 posted on 09/15/2015 11:22:19 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Marine's job is to take ground and hold it until the last man is dead or until our politicians re-arm the other military that they have cut to the bone.

It happens again and again....GOD Bless the USMC

19 posted on 09/15/2015 11:22:50 AM PDT by virgil283 (I TAUT I TAW A PROLETARIAT)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nations as stupid as ours don’t deserve to survive. We’ll deserve and receive defeat, early and often, if we put women in combat.


20 posted on 09/15/2015 11:26:12 AM PDT by afsnco
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