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ANALYSIS: Carly Fiorina Leads Way as Republican Candidates Shrink Donald Trump’s Shadow
ABCNews ^ | September 17, 2015 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 09/17/2015 12:07:17 AM PDT by Steelfish

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I imagine this Fiorina is a Democratic candidate who got the dates mixed up, next week there girlfriend.


41 posted on 09/17/2015 1:24:51 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview the next five years)
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To: dp0622

Cruz did fine and helped himself a lot.. Trump stood there and took all the crap they threw at him from every direction and he still stood tall.. I think he’s going to get a bump in the polls for that


42 posted on 09/17/2015 1:27:27 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

I thought he was very poised. Needs to sharpen up on some issues though. He and Cruz should get together a few times.

If something crazy happens and Cruz jumps, he’s my first. Then Trump.


43 posted on 09/17/2015 1:32:35 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Steelfish

I hope we’re down to ten candidates by the next debate (Oct 28th).


44 posted on 09/17/2015 1:40:58 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Steelfish

“his rivals tried a new strategy at the second Republican debate”

His rivals also included CNN who started almost every question with ‘Trump said this about you so what do you say’. It was the most ridiculously run debate I have ever seen. The CNN panel acted like a bunch of passive aggressive high school bullies. Their goal was for NO ONE on that stage to look good. CNN is the joke this morning.


45 posted on 09/17/2015 1:51:02 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: dp0622

Carson was just the “not Trump” placeholder. However, he is not going to attack Trump because he isn’t a skilled fighter. The GOPes needed someone to take that spot and use it for a base of attack. So behold the magic rise of Carly.

Notice how the two candidates they pushed to be the Not-Trump are the black candidate (who would not fight) and now the female candidate? Not a coincidence either. It was to provide a bait to Trump to attack and then play the race or gender card. Trump hasn’t taken the bait when it came to Carson. They will try again with Carly.

What the GOPes are hoping is that Carson’s support will fall to Carly cleanly so she can have a stable base. That won’t happen, but it’s their gamble. So look for them to also start to push some of the bottom feeders to drop out and urge their supporters to back her.

It’s still all about giving Bush some cover to sneak by, but the whole plan is a failure from the start as it assumes Trump’s support is malleable, and that he can be knocked out. More of a hail Mary than a winnable strategy.


46 posted on 09/17/2015 2:06:43 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Great analysis.

Didn’t change my opinion tonight. But the headline readers..that’s a different story.

Cruz is brilliant. Trump is blunt. Great combo.

I thought Trump behaved well tonight. Especially with a fixed audience. He destroyed Carly’s business past with many facts yet got no applause.


47 posted on 09/17/2015 2:14:15 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: re_nortex

-— All those who hate America are calling that iCarly chick the winner. -—

Well, they sure can’t call Cruz the winner. But he should get a big bump from this. Carson should drop a peg or two, as should Trump. The race is wide open.


48 posted on 09/17/2015 2:18:03 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: RedHeeler
What did she win? Please expound, as vociferously as possible.

She's the pivot point of a circle jerk. Nothing more.

49 posted on 09/17/2015 3:50:51 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Steelfish
In today's MSM, one only has to look at the author to know the slant and bias that follows.

When the polls come out, the MSM will sound like Obama economic advisers, 'Surprised & Unexpected'.

...just look at Drudge's post-debate poll.

50 posted on 09/17/2015 3:57:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

On another thread, a female Freeper, speaking of Fiorina asked, “is it really smart to alienate most of the male voters by foisting upon them a shrill, nagging, omniscient harpy to vote for?”.......

After watching Fiorina in action, I came away with a better understanding of why many men divorce their wives. To me, Fiorina came across as nasty, spiteful, mean, angry woman. Not what I would want in the WH.


51 posted on 09/17/2015 3:59:33 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Steelfish

This is the hit piece we expected


52 posted on 09/17/2015 4:04:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Steelfish

If Trump hadn’t “faded for long stretches”, he would have been accused of monopolizing the debate.

He was one of 11 who were supposed to be getting equal time up there, and as it is, often in defense of attacks, he took more time than anyone else.


53 posted on 09/17/2015 4:04:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tonytitan

Okay. Seems vociferous, yet not germane to the debate. Why is that? Are you off key?


54 posted on 09/17/2015 4:04:57 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Steelfish

Delusional.


55 posted on 09/17/2015 4:11:57 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Helicondelta

The more people see of her, the less they like her.


56 posted on 09/17/2015 4:14:53 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Steelfish
ABC "News" having a wet dream fantasy and missing the evidence.

GO CRUZ!!! Keep it up Trump!!

57 posted on 09/17/2015 4:18:23 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
This race is over-Trump has got it sowed up!

The others are just vying for cabinet positions.

58 posted on 09/17/2015 4:20:45 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Steelfish
And yet we have THIS thread from Newsmax says Trump won the debate...
59 posted on 09/17/2015 4:32:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: aft_lizard

Win/lose I’m not so sure. But Carly did come across to me as an angry man hating divorcee.


60 posted on 09/17/2015 4:43:22 AM PDT by Kegger
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