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Pentagon says F-35 operational test aboard USS Wasp did not measure up
Stars andf Stripes ^ | 9/17/15 | Davenport

Posted on 09/17/2015 2:14:46 PM PDT by pabianice

WASHINGTON — When the Marine Corps put its version of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter through a series of tests aboard an amphibious assault ship in the spring, officials said that the aircraft performed so well that the service soon declared it ready for combat.

But the Pentagon's top weapons tester said in a report in July that the exercise was so flawed that it "was not an operational test... in either a formal or informal sense of the term." Furthermore, the test "did not — and could not — demonstrate" that the version of the F-35 that was evaluated "is ready for real-world operational deployments, given the way the event was structured."

For the test, which happened in late May aboard the USS Wasp, to be "bona fide," it would have had to be under "conditions that were much more representative of real-world operations than those that were used during this deployment," Michael Gilmore, director of the Pentagon's Operational Test and Evaluation Office, wrote in a memo.

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According to the report, the F-35 cannot be operated at sea without a manufacturer's team aboard to keep it flying. Trouble brewing...
1 posted on 09/17/2015 2:14:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

What a gravy train. We already had problems in the Army needing contractors to fly the Apache because they kept maintainers in the dark and did not share plans or designs of new countermeasures, I can see the contractor business booming with the F35.


2 posted on 09/17/2015 2:18:28 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: pabianice

What a gravy train. We already had problems in the Army needing contractors to fly the Apache because they kept maintainers in the dark and did not share plans or designs of new countermeasures, I can see the contractor business booming with the F35.

It seems like when a program is too successful, like the F20 or the F22, it is never fully fielded.


3 posted on 09/17/2015 2:19:09 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: pabianice

And there’s this:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/08/f-35-loses-dogfight-to-red-baron/


4 posted on 09/17/2015 2:21:13 PM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: pabianice

They awarded this to northrup b/c if the didnt they had no new military plane contrafts,it was gojng to be devastating to them. Boeing had lots of commercial stuff so they were skipped over b/c they wouldnt go bankrupt if they didnt win.


5 posted on 09/17/2015 2:25:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: pabianice

This link works. Neither of the posted links worked:

http://www.stripes.com/news/pentagon-says-f-35-operational-test-aboard-uss-wasp-did-not-measure-up-1.368281


6 posted on 09/17/2015 2:27:49 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: WayneS

There is a Trump ¡Jeb metaphor in that story.


7 posted on 09/17/2015 2:28:51 PM PDT by evilC
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To: pabianice

Everything 0bama and his regime touches turns to shi7.

5.56mm


8 posted on 09/17/2015 2:29:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: WayneS

Thanx! You just gave me my good laugh of the day. BTW it would not surprise me if it did happen, I’d even give even odds if The Baron had Japanese Zero or an ME109. A few months ago, there was a program on Coast to Coast claming the Red Baron shot down a flying saucer in 1917. Anyhoo, the Fokker is a paragon of stealth, it is made out of wood and canvas.


9 posted on 09/17/2015 2:34:30 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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To: pabianice

The flying piano.


10 posted on 09/17/2015 2:37:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Nowhere Man

The F-35 is the Brewster Buffalo of our time.


11 posted on 09/17/2015 2:37:58 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: pabianice

Just say it’s operational and go with it. Why not? The military is saying women are fine for front line combat, homosexuals and cross-dressers are welcome, SCOTUS says a penalty is a tax and sodomy is marriage.

I mean, what does reality have to do with anything any more?


12 posted on 09/17/2015 2:40:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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It’s a piece of junk. This is corporate welfare of the highest order. Even the AF itself is now saying its a dog in aerial combat. But it’s okay, cause it was never meant to be, cause we’ll kill them before they ever see us. Missiles man, missiles.

Last time they did that with a one size fits all airframe was for the F4 Phantom. That didn’t work out so well.

Granted radars and missiles were still new, didn’t have all the bugs worked out. But all that high tech stuff works just fine, until it doesn’t, and the pilot and his aircraft find themselves in a street brawl. All up close n personal like.

For all the money they want US to spend on this Turkey, I’d expect a world class capable aircraft able to get down and dirty, up close and personal.

Scrap it before we put any more money into it.


13 posted on 09/17/2015 2:44:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Jeff Chandler
Obviously you are not familiar with the concept of doublethink.

Additionally you have probably not received the latest edition of the Newspeak dictionary.

14 posted on 09/17/2015 2:45:18 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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15 posted on 09/17/2015 2:46:16 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They awarded this to northrup b/c if the didnt they had no new military plane contrafts,it was gojng to be devastating to them. Boeing had lots of commercial stuff so they were skipped over b/c they wouldnt go bankrupt if they didnt win.

Uh, the F-35 contract went to Lockheed Martin, and they were already building F-22s when they won the contract.

16 posted on 09/17/2015 2:46:39 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag necessary?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
you have probably not received the latest edition of the Newspeak dictionary.

I was going to order it on Amazon but the reviews were doubleplusungood.

17 posted on 09/17/2015 2:47:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Sorry, yeah, Lockheed Martin. But at this time they knew they were not going to be making nearly as many f-22s as they had contracted for. If they didnt get the f35 itd be the first time in a long time they were not going to be making a current fighter jet.


18 posted on 09/17/2015 2:51:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Good one.


19 posted on 09/17/2015 3:03:00 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: WayneS

“And there’s this:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/08/f-35-loses-dogfight-to-red-baron/

Oh, please tell me that is satire! Cause I’m scared it’s not!


20 posted on 09/17/2015 3:08:59 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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