Scott Walker implodes, Carly Fiorina soars in new CNN poll

MSNBC ^ | 9/20/15 | Benjy Sarlin

[catnipman]

“At least until the Dalmatians - Fur Coat - Cruella DeVille jokes get going.”

We need a pic of the Disney cartoon Cruella DeVille with Fiorina’s face photoshopped on. She could be wearing a partially complete coat, with some dead, skinned Dalmatian carcasses at her feet labeled “HP”, “Lucent”, “U.S. jobs”, etc. and a few more live, leaping puppies at her feet with labels of your choice.

[ConservativeMind]

I really cannot believe that is his current position. I also don't think that Jindal is tied with him, but I like him, too.

I see Walker as a low energy-type of candidate, but he does have a reasonable resume. However, his waffling on a few key items has left people confused at this time.

[Brown Deer]

67 total votes is soaring in the polls?

[Dave W]

Well, I think you overestimate the voters. Most are dumb and always been that way. I just read in National Review this past week that Romney's name recognition was only at 5% at the start of the 2012 race. He had been governor of Mass. and head of the Winter Olympics, etc. but only 5% knew who he was.

The point they were trying to make that even with his exposure, Romney allowed the dems to define him since he was not well known.

So yes, I believe those large percentages of people have not heard of some of these people. Two weeks ago, Carly's percentage of people who did not know of her was at 52% - that was only two weeks ago. So I do believe those numbers.

[Dave W]

Actually, the polls show that the more the voters get to know Carly, her numbers go up. Ben’s is going down, so you probably will need to revise your post.

[Sacajaweau]

Hang on....I think Carson and Carly will take a dive shortly. Walker and Cruz will rise.

[Dave W]

Well, Walker is on his second term, so I assume he is not running for reelection. He is done in Wisconsin, unless he wants to go back to the state legislature or be the county executive again in Milwaukee.

Also, I read a few weeks ago that his favorability rating in Wisconsin had sunk to 38%.

It seems to be almost universal that politicians running for office while in a different position lose favor as many voters don't see that as appropriate. If you look like you are going down in flames, those same voters pile on even more. It's just the way it is.

[Sacajaweau]

I just read Carly on the issues...It's a big site. Looks like she doesn't have a strong stance on anything. Just words....and she has no record.

But there is the killing of HP and the under the table deal with Iran during the embargo. People will catch on.

[JediJones]

A tiny sample like this in a national poll when only 4 states matter before everything could be upended isn’t very useful.

The decline in Trump’s numbers should be a concern though. If this is reflected in other polls then it could be a serious problem for him. He can’t afford to have the air let out of his balloon this early in the process.

[tenger]

Once again the devil is in the details:

"The CNN/ORC poll was conducted September 17-19 and surveyed 1,006 adult Americans, including 924 registered voters -- 444 of whom are Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP. The margin of error with the Republican results is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points."

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

"Walker worked that important (but local angle) for over a decade. It allowed him to create solutions and rehearse them enough to explain them well. But the national jetstream of issues is too fast moving. Walker couldn’t keep up."

I think you hit it here. Excellent analysis. Maybe if he gets elected to the senate and serves a term or two he'll be ready. Clearly not now, though.

Hank

[xzins]

Walker hasn’t gotten me riled up about anything.

Last I heard he wanted to go after government labor unions at a national level. I’ll be honest with. That’s probably got some substance to it, but it just isn’t high on my list of the concerns I have for this nation.

[rabidralph]

His website sent out a notice last week that campaign gear was 40 percent off.

[Dave W]

I don’t think so. For many people, she’s a breath of fresh air. You will just have to let it play out. Posting stream of consciousness thoughts here is of no consequence. It’s a big country. Voters make up their own mind as you make up your own mind.

[rabidralph]

was a more specific problem to Wisconsin where the govt. unions had taken over day to day operation of the State for their own interests.

Actually, it seems that every single state and local government is ripping off the taxpayers by way of the unions but to regular folks, that's how government works. The union problem takes a lot longer to explain to people than illegals taking jobs and killing people.

[DoodleDawg]

Well, Walker is on his second term, so I assume he is not running for reelection.

He's not term-limited so he could if he wanted to. Not much else for him to do.

[Dave W]

Independents are allowed to vote in about half of republican primaries. That is why they are included. In other states, democrats are allowed to vote in the republican primary, too. A republican only poll is not representative of who will vote. Thought you may like to know.

[rabidralph]

I meant to add that Walker should have spent his time explaining to America why unions needed to be reined in, rather than talking about the results of what he did.

[kagnew]

Since it’s a CNN pole, forget it.

[BillyBoy]

>> the polls show that the more the voters get to know Carly, her numbers go up. <<

The more voters get to hear gushing mainstream media puff pieces on Carly ("rising star" "fearless debater", etc.), the more her numbers go up.

If voters got to know the REAL Carly (with her failed record in the private sector and poor Senate race in California as the handpicked McCain/Romney candidate), her numbers would go down.