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Sorry, but a BB gun I NOT a firearm.
1 posted on 09/28/2015 3:59:43 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

So is a pop tart.


2 posted on 09/28/2015 4:00:28 PM PDT by rey
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To: Red in Blue PA

No fire, no “fire”arm.


3 posted on 09/28/2015 4:01:20 PM PDT by null and void (FLINT: Free enterprise, Limited government, Individual liberty, National defense, Traditional values)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m going to sound like a crazy man here, but where does it say in the constitution that you lose your rights once you are convicted or after you have done your sentence.

If you lose your rights forever, are you not in fact doing a life sentence?


4 posted on 09/28/2015 4:02:13 PM PDT by rey
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To: Red in Blue PA

No way — where’s the fire that all firearms produce to expel the bullet?


5 posted on 09/28/2015 4:02:32 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hopefully this will be reversed on appeal.


7 posted on 09/28/2015 4:04:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

such a law is unconstitutional, period.

also, it continues in effect punishment for convictions....
effectively imposing cruel and unusual punishment since it apparently extends many ordinary crimes into life (or very very long) sentences?

there are two strong grounds to have a law firm seek to overturn this ridiculous statute


8 posted on 09/28/2015 4:04:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Another stupid and dangerous precedent set by a judge and some dumba$$ DA. Now are we all to go and register our BB guns?


10 posted on 09/28/2015 4:06:48 PM PDT by Magnum44 (I dissent)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bow & Arrow are also considered a “firearm”.


12 posted on 09/28/2015 4:09:00 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Book him, Danno.....


13 posted on 09/28/2015 4:11:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: Red in Blue PA

Appeals courts!


14 posted on 09/28/2015 4:12:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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"Minnesota court:
BB gun is a ‘firearm’...."

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15 posted on 09/28/2015 4:12:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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A 5.5 grain bb at 800 fps (both typical) has a muzzle energy of 8 foot pounds.

A 36 grain .22 LR at a standard velocity of 1070 fps (both typical) has a muzzle energy of 91 foot pounds.

These are not comparable, and I used just about the smallest firearm caliber in common use. A 12 gauge shotgun can hit 3,000 foot pounds easily.

What about the dictionary definition? /ˈfaɪərˌɑːm/ a weapon, esp a portable gun or pistol, from which a projectile can be discharged by an explosion caused by igniting gunpowder. This was (as the article noted) not a firearm under the common definition.

This is just another typical case of a black-robed thug making up rules and using force to impose those invented rules on others. It's not too different from the white-robed thugs in the days of the Klan, except that out tax dollars are subsidizing this petty tyrant's hobby.

19 posted on 09/28/2015 4:16:50 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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No, I don't think so...

21 posted on 09/28/2015 4:18:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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You’ve done the penalty. Good bye and have a nice day. Having a conviction following you for the rest of your life is a life sentence.


23 posted on 09/28/2015 4:20:27 PM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: Red in Blue PA

No, it isn’t.


26 posted on 09/28/2015 4:21:35 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Well, it is Minnesota, after all. Socialist Central.


27 posted on 09/28/2015 4:21:36 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Redefine marriage,
redefine firearm-

It`s the NEW DOUBLE-MEANING DICTIONARY, Published by,
Who else??—DOUBLEDAY!!!

What`s next?


29 posted on 09/28/2015 4:22:48 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: Red in Blue PA

The essential ingredient in a firearm is fire...an airgun is explicitly unregulated because it doesn’t use fire to accelerate the projectile.


32 posted on 09/28/2015 4:23:41 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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Neighboring Michigan recently removed BBgun/pellet rifle from the legal firearm definition.


33 posted on 09/28/2015 4:23:43 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If youce, prepare for war.)
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Minnesota court: BB gun is a ‘firearm’

Typical judicial idiocy. What part does the "fire" come out of Judges? You do know that the word FIRE-Arm comes from the fact that fire is what expels the projectile?

No, they are stupid and think compressed air is the same thing as "fire".

34 posted on 09/28/2015 4:25:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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