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To: jimbo123

I think we must be prepared to stand up for US interests. But the problem is that these have been very clouded by Obama’s miserable manipulations.

Everything has got to be refocused. Obama is an isolationist, partly because he doesn’t want to fight Islamic terrorists because he wants them to win, but also because Dems are isolationists. The problem is that the world doesn’t let you be isolated anymore.

And even though we were isolationist non-participants in the first two World Wars, we got drawn in. So we have to have a plan.

Russia could be an ally, but they have to respect us first. And they don’t. I wonder why....


99 posted on 10/01/2015 9:51:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Yours is the first sober, rational comment on this entire thread. To everyone else: I realize what she said went too far, but the level of childish name calling and hyperbole that has ensued here is more fitting of DU than FR.

We're supposed to be the thoughtful, rational side, yet lately it seems I see more and more poorly reasoned, emotionally hysterical comments. Just in this thread alone, I have noticed crude name-calling, references to Jews controlling Fiorina's foreign policy (which echoes increasingly common strains of late of "Jews control the world" conspiracy theory), and a big dose of Libertarian isolationism. Please explain to me how any of that nonsense aligns with conservative principles.

This Paulian notion that we can just mind our own business here and everyone else will leave us alone is simply fatally naive in today's world. If you think Putin is merely trying to wipe out some terrorists and protect his ally Assad in the process, you just haven't been paying attention. If you believe that, you probably also believed that he only entered Ukraine at the behest of a downtrodden ethnic Russian minority (or the equally mistaken notion that Hitler only entered the Sudetenland to protect ethnic Germans). Putin is taking full advantage of Obama's weakness to take as much strategically significant territory as he can. So is China.

The intended end game here is to permanently cripple the United States' ability to influence world events, and to move swiftly toward that goal while we are distracted with nonsense like transgenderism and led by a compliant, traitorous Marxist/Islamist president. This is the real deal now. The bear and the dragon are out for blood while our "President" is intentionally trying to destabilize every non-Islamist regime remaining in the Mideast, with the intent, I believe, of creating a nuclear-armed caliphate.

And yet you guys still think the next President (should they be an actual patriot) should just stick the nation's metaphoric head in the sand, hum a happy tune, and hope all the monsters go away? I pray your approach does not hold sway and we finally elect a leader who will bolster our military strength and use its power of deterrence when necessary. Remember, Reagan was constantly berated as a "warmonger" and someone who was going to get us into World War III. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall that happening.

And just for the record, I don't support Fiorina (nor do I necessarily count her out yet). My opinion is that the best candidate by far is Ted Cruz.

136 posted on 10/01/2015 11:24:55 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: livius

“And even though we were isolationist non-participants in the first two World Wars, we got drawn in. So we have to have a plan.”

We have been drawn into wars because our “entangling alliances” (that G. Washington warned us about). They have made it not only possible for others to draw us into wars, but likely as others will control the events that inevitably involve us. They will deliberately create the situation that will suck us in because it is in their interest, not ours.


192 posted on 10/01/2015 6:11:22 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Politicians need to pander to all the American citizens, not illegals, global corps, or oligarchs.)
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