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Yes, Obama does want to take your guns
The Hill ^ | October 5, 2015 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/06/2015 8:18:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Within hours of the killings at Umpqua Community College in Oregon last week, President Obama stepped to the White House lectern, admittedly without all the facts of the case, to shamelessly politicize the tragedy.

“Somebody, somewhere will comment and say, Obama politicized this issue. Well, this is something we should politicize,” he said.

Perhaps Obama’s open politicizing of the issue wasn’t the worst part, but instead it was his intellectual dishonesty when it comes to the “common-sense” gun laws he wants implemented. “What’s become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common-sense gun legislation. Right now, I can imagine the press releases being cranked out: We need more guns, they’ll argue. Fewer gun safety laws. Does anybody really believe that? There are scores of responsible gun owners in this country — they know that’s not true. We know because of the polling that says the majority of Americans understand we should be changing these laws — including the majority of responsible, law-abiding gun owners,” the president said. “We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it.”

“We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives. So the notion that gun violence is somehow different,” Obama added, “that our freedom and our Constitution prohibits any modest regulation of how we use a deadly weapon, when there are law-abiding gun owners all across the country who could hunt and protect their families and do everything they do under such regulations doesn’t make sense.”

The so-called “common-sense” and “modest” laws in Britain and Australia Obama refers to aren’t common-sense or modest at all, but rather require extreme confiscation and bans.

In 1996, the Australian government confiscated hundreds of thousands of personally owned firearms as part of their new “common-sense” gun control laws. In 1997, British citizens were forced to turn over their handguns for destruction. The prettier and more expensive versions were confiscated and placed in museums. Is this what Obama is suggesting should happen to the estimated 300 million firearms owned by American citizens? Is that what he means by “common sense,” “modest regulation” and “changing our laws?”

Of course it is.

It should be noted that after the Britain handgun ban was implemented, crime committed with guns skyrocketed and the ban has done little to reduce overall homicide rates. The same has been shown for homicides committed with firearms in Australia after the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms.

“The Government’s latest crime figures were condemned as ‘truly terrible’ by the Tories today as it emerged that gun crime in England and Wales soared by 35% last year. Criminals used handguns in 46% more offences, Home Office statistics revealed,” the Daily Mail reported in 2003. “Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April, up from 7,362. It was the fourth consecutive year to see a rise and there were more than 2,200 more gun crimes last year than the previous peak in 1993. Figures showed the number of crimes involving handguns had more than doubled since the post-Dunblane massacre ban on the weapons, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871.”

In 2009, the United Kingdom was found to be the most violent country in Europe.

Despite Obama’s claim that pro-Second Amendment groups want less gun safety, the opposite is true. In fact, the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) have dedicated millions of dollars, thousands of hours and numerous different resources to gun safety programs and will continue to do so for years to come.

Since 1988, the NRA has offered its Eddie Eagle program to parents and children as a gun safety resource. Since 2003, the NSSF has partnered with more than 15,000 law enforcement agencies in all 50 states to hand out more than 36 million firearm safety kits. As a result of these programs, we’ve seen a 22 percent reduction in fatal firearms accidents over the past decade. Because of this reduction, fatal firearms accidents now make up less than 1 percent of all fatal accidents in the United States.

Further, the NSSF has worked with local state governments in an effort to properly enter mental health information into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, preventing the mentally ill from getting their hands on a firearm.

Anti-gun groups, most of which are funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, have done little to promote or fund real gun safety programs. While these groups spend millions to exploit tragedy and to infringe on the Second Amendment rights of Americans, the NRA and the NSSF spend millions to keep Americans and their rights safe.

If President Obama had his way, the United States would be just like Britain and Australia, where handguns were confiscated and remain banned with little to show for it. Thankfully, the Second Amendment and the American people will not stand for it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; obama; oregon; shooting
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1 posted on 10/06/2015 8:18:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And, the day after Zer0 spouted this nonsense, a man wearing a “robe” shot and killed 2 Australians outside a police station in that gun free country.
Guns get banned, people still get shot by crazies.


2 posted on 10/06/2015 8:22:30 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If youce, prepare for war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let him come!


3 posted on 10/06/2015 8:23:34 PM PDT by vpintheak (A Free Man!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He started running his suck before the bodies of the victims had even been removed. He and his ilk are fully dedicated to violating the 2nd Amendment, either through heartstring tugging rhetoric, or outright confiscation if he could really have his way. The Rahmen Noodle Emanuel said that you should never let a crisis go to waste.


4 posted on 10/06/2015 8:25:12 PM PDT by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: Sasparilla

Australia is not gun free. Do some research.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 8:28:43 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you, Katie Pavlich.


6 posted on 10/06/2015 8:28:50 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Executive order, coming right up, from dictator Barry Hopenchange


7 posted on 10/06/2015 8:59:00 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Come And Try To Take It You Evil Ba$tard!

8 posted on 10/06/2015 8:59:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Second Amendment advocates are all about gun safety and know more about gun safety than any person who never held a gun.
9 posted on 10/06/2015 9:04:18 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Lurker

All firearms are registered in Australia & UK. Fact.

If the pollies & authorities say, “Turn them in”, then the police already know exactly who has what. Fact.

Turn them in, or go to gaol. Fact.

Civil disobedience & noncompliance? You’re on your own, mate.


10 posted on 10/06/2015 9:05:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: ArmyTeach

Furthermore, what part of the 2nd Amendment do the elites not comprehend? “The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed. The use of the phrase ‘shall not’ in the 2nd amendment in effect closes the discussion.


11 posted on 10/06/2015 9:17:57 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I posted this on an earlier thread:

So, what do you FRiends think Obama is going to do?

Gov. Cuomo wanted the Feds to stop guns from coming into New York. I think Obama might try to ban interstate transport of weapons. Since it will be too difficult to find any actual gunrunners, I think he might go after those who have had to register their weapons, or who have CCW permits.

Anyone who has ever been prescribed any kind of psychotropic drugs might be under scrutiny, too.


12 posted on 10/06/2015 9:27:59 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not just Obama...


13 posted on 10/06/2015 9:29:47 PM PDT by Bon mots
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14 posted on 10/06/2015 9:47:27 PM PDT by Bon mots
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There are scores of responsible gun owners in this country — they know that’s not true.

[eyeroll] Does the First Panderer realize he actually just said there aren't 40 responsible gun owners in the country???

15 posted on 10/06/2015 10:36:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We have seatbelt laws because we know it saves lives.

....and that's the feral goobermint run amok too, so....

16 posted on 10/06/2015 10:38:08 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

my understanding is that this person and his mother bought guns legally and had no mental health issues in their background. Obama is a jerk. And by the way I shot my first guns this weekend in Las Vegas. Glock a scar and an m4. I didn’t do well with the clock but I did very well with the other two. I know I posted this in another thread also but it was so exciting I plan to go to the ranges in New York and apply for a permit no wonder people like shooting guns so much. and this nonsense about taking our guns away is ridiculous. A few hundred people a year die in these mass shootings. 10000 blacks kill each other every year with guns. And if they didn’t use guns they would use knives machetes or whatever they can get their hands on. Like I said before the Romans didn’t have guns and they did a pretty good job of killing.300 million people and guns in the United States and a couple of hundred people a year die from mass shootings. And that is ridiculously low. I wonder how many women die from abortions butbut there are no speeches on that.


17 posted on 10/07/2015 1:36:44 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: matthew fuller

Katie Pavlich is great. A true journalistic jewel.


18 posted on 10/07/2015 1:37:46 AM PDT by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it. Liberalism and Islam Share a Mental Disease of Corruption.)
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To: dp0622

The day he tries this—even with RINO support-— will be day one of CW II (Texas would break from the Union and take a number of states with her) or the first day of Rev. War II with a million man army marching on Washington Dc. Would US soldiers fire on Americans? Obama would be pulled from the White House in chains.


19 posted on 10/07/2015 2:17:58 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, he and others like him. It’s the only thing keeping them from total dictatorship.


20 posted on 10/07/2015 5:38:17 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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