[roamer_1]

Your map is interesting - Notice that all the countries directly touching Israel are not involved... For that reason, I adhere to the idea that there is a distinction between the Magog war and the Ps 83 war, and that the Ps 83 war (which explicitly engages all those near countries not mentioned in the Magog war) necessarily predates the Magog war, mainly for the cause that, in order for those near countries to be non-participatory in the Magog war, they would almost certainly already be absent.

Whether Damascus falls in whichever/either is not an indicator, because it could easily fall in either one, albeit that I believe it to fall during the Ps 83 war.

And the portents leading toward Ps 83 have been signaled since Israel became re-established, with every one of those countries mentioned therein having a deep and profound racial hatred of Judah - Those same being explicitly mentioned in the passage.

It would follow that greater Islam, with the Magog countries all in tow, would come against Israel to take back the lands conquered in the Ps 83 war, which basically would expand Israel, for the first time, to the lands promised to Abraham...

That defeat (Magog), with Islam nearly annihilated, is what ‘dries up the Euphrates’, making way for the kings of the East... And Armageddon. There are still many years at play, though in the short term... I am 53, and if I do not see Messiah coming in glory with these very eyes of mine, I am certain that my children will.

[SkyPilot]

Your map is interesting - Notice that all the countries directly touching Israel are not involved... For that reason, I adhere to the idea that there is a distinction between the Magog war and the Ps 83 war, and that the Ps 83 war

I agree. Bill Salus wrote a great book on that very theory and subject. His analysis is pretty sound.