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To: don-o

“Jimmy Graves is a minor player in this mess.”

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He is not really a minor player. He is the President of the Confederation, the meeting of which was interrupted by murder and mayhem. SO, why didn’t he testify before the Grand Jury, in defense of the Confederation and its members who went to Waco, who are now coming before the Grand Jury? Usually any Grand Jury hears mostly what the prosecution presents. Jimmy G. was invited to present commentary at least or evidence on behalf of Confederation members who went to TP, i.e. the defendants. WHY didn’t he? Seems this would have been a boon to the Confederation, to testify before the Grand Jury?? Which would otherwise hear only prosecution testimony??

I know he is soft-spoken and etc., but this seems to have been an opportunity for him to get some message out.

Why didn’t he want to testify??? Wondering.


9 posted on 10/15/2015 10:48:42 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH
Why didn’t he want to testify???

1. He wasn't there.
2. He is not a mind reader so he could not testify as to why anyone else was there, beyond the announced agenda.
3. He's smart enough to know that the state would try to use him to further their own narrative.
4. The state was satisfied with what he supplied.

10 posted on 10/15/2015 11:29:58 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Sounds like it might have been nothing more than a typical Texas subpoena duces tecum to produce records containing the usual language -

“YOU ARE COMMANDED to appear and produce and permit inspection and copying of the following documents or tangible things at the place, date, and time specified below:”

The vast majority of which are satisfied without the person actually physically appearing before the court or at the location of the party requesting the documents. Typically the person produces the records and appears before a notary and attests the copies they produced are true and correct.


11 posted on 10/15/2015 11:44:45 AM PDT by ExyZ
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To: AMDG&BVMH
I would have thought Graves direct testimony was needed to answer questions around the decision to move the regional Confederation of Clubs meeting from Austin to Waco.

Perhaps the documents the subpoena requested provide those answers, or at least provide enough evidence that his testimony to the grand jury isn't needed.

In any case Graves has much to lose and very little to gain by volunteering to answer questions under oath from a tough minded Waco district attorney.

Doesn't mean he won't be called to testify later if the circumstances warrant, or even indicted if it comes to light he was directing the Bandidos at Twin Peaks from behind the scenes.

13 posted on 10/16/2015 7:15:14 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Why didn’t he want to testify??? Wondering.
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Well, duh.... he wasn’t there. And his presence is not required as even the corrupt Waco judicial authorities have been forced to admit by not REQUIRING him to testify. And all your other FUD questions reflect either an actual or pretend lack of understanding of the GJ process. But you need to understand that, for the most part, FReepers aren’t an ignorant bunch — if you understand that you’ll be less likely to make a fool of yourself to us.


14 posted on 10/16/2015 10:35:05 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose! Does TG have to be an ass every day?)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
-- Why didn't he want to testify? --

In addition to the other points noted, the GJ is seated a couple hours drive away. Plus there is the general discomfort associated with contact with the legal system.

-- ... this seems to have been an opportunity for him to get some message out. --

No, he's under a gag order, and GJ is sworn to secrecy.

15 posted on 10/16/2015 11:39:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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