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Guns ā€˜nā€™ Moses: Why more Jews are packing heat
New York Post ^ | 10/15/2015 | Bethany Mandel

Posted on 10/15/2015 5:54:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Jewish suburban mom, a doctor and a cop walk into a shooting range.

That’s no setup to a punch line; it’s who you might find at the kind of New Jersey gun range where I took a basic pistol class last Sunday morning. As our instructor looked around at the class and commented on the strange mix of individuals, he noted that just one character was missing from his typical crew of students: a rabbi.

He didn’t have to explain why; you only need to watch the news to know that synagogues, kosher supermarkets and Jewish community centers are a renewed target for violence right here in the New York area, not to mention Paris and Jerusalem.

That’s not the (only) reason I was there. I’m no longer the card-carrying liberal I was in my teens and early 20s, but even then my relationship with guns was more complicated.

As a child, I was saved by the presence of a gun in my home. A man tried to climb in my bedroom window one night. My single mother heard the noise, grabbed her gun and explained (though no explanation was really necessary) that it would be in the man’s best interest to return from whence he came.

I’ve always appreciated my mom’s gun possession ever since. But now, as a mother myself, I understand it, too.

Recently Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson came under fire (sorry, couldn’t resist) for saying the Holocaust might not have unfolded the way it had if Jews in Europe had been armed.

Many Jewish groups and individuals were up in arms (last one, I promise) over those comments, and understandably so: Carson’s claim that the Nazi mass murder of Jews “would have been greatly diminished” if the Jews of Germany hadn’t been disarmed

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; iran; israel; jews; lebanon; waronterror

1 posted on 10/15/2015 5:54:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; EQAndyBuzz; Jack Hydrazine; SkyDancer; GraceG; Sarah Barracuda; onyx; EinNYC; ...
My Torah and Kippah


2 posted on 10/15/2015 5:57:13 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Welcome Jewish friends-- now you too can be on Bammy's shun list as one of those clinging to your guns and religion. Praise the Lord and pass the bagels ammo.
3 posted on 10/15/2015 6:01:44 PM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: KC_Lion

We are right there with you my friend.


4 posted on 10/15/2015 6:03:28 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, Dr. Carson’s comments DO hold up to historic scrutiny. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of April 1943 tied up an entire DIVISION of german soldiers who could have otherwise been at the Russian front, Italy, or elsewhere defeating the allies. Carson wasn’t BLAMING Jews, he was stating a fundamental truth: an armed person is a free person. Disarmed, we’re all slaves, prey, to someone.


5 posted on 10/15/2015 6:08:50 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: KC_Lion

Shalom.... through superior firepower.

You have more friends than you know.


6 posted on 10/15/2015 6:34:02 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: KC_Lion

Cool. I like my dad’s .30 carbine.


7 posted on 10/15/2015 6:34:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SkyDancer

.30 Carbines are nice, but the ammo could become a problem.

I think there is actually a re-chambering conversion to .357 magnum that would allow you to use the same ammo in a handgun AND the carbine.


8 posted on 10/15/2015 6:36:52 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The big complaint about the Jewish people, is that they were unwilling to fight for their beliefs, or even their very survival.

Perhaps the one good thing about the Shoah, is that real Jews (not the New York neurotic Woody Allen self-hating kind) are willing to fight those who want to destroy them, whether they be Muslims, Left-wing Nationalists in Europe, or Democrats in the U.S.

9 posted on 10/15/2015 7:43:59 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: MuttTheHoople
The big complaint about the Jewish people, is that they were unwilling to fight for their beliefs, or even their very survival.

More Jews need to spend some time reading the book of Esther. It's my favorite. Irony, intrigue, betrayal and self defense.

10 posted on 10/15/2015 8:19:50 PM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: KC_Lion
Oh, I'm packing heat, too:


11 posted on 10/15/2015 11:38:04 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: MuttTheHoople

I once read a Jewish man respond on a news Web page to an antisemitic commenter. “The Jews willing to passively get on the cattle cars are dead... Those of us who are left will kill you”.


12 posted on 10/15/2015 11:41:58 PM PDT by arielguard (You don't get credit for what you are supposed to do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To: Bethany Mandel
From : 5th MEB
I have never been able to understand why a people with a history like that of the Jewish people refuse to believe in the concept of violence in defense of themselves and their families.
Since the Roman Diaspora; in every country they have ever resided in, from Armenia, Austria Azerbaijan, Russia, England, France, Spain, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, the list is endless.
Nothing but pogroms, murders, mass murders, denial of citizenship, property confiscations, this list is also endless.
Are all but it would seem about 2% of the Jews in the world, suicidal?
I have never read the Torah, but it would seem to me that there has to be something in there about protecting the family and faith.
The Jews are supposed to be Gods Chosen People; chosen for what, mass stupidity and extinction?
Do the Jewish people really think there is any government on earth that will always protect them?
Remember; governments change, attitudes inside governments change.
Very quickly, what is today’s tolerance can be tomorrows gas chamber and crematorium.


13 posted on 10/16/2015 12:04:45 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

By the way; this rant come from a Roman Catholic whose life was saved by a JEWISH CHAPLIN.


14 posted on 10/16/2015 12:07:40 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

RE: I have never read the Torah, but it would seem to me that there has to be something in there about protecting the family and faith.

If you read the last few Chapters of the Book of Esther, you will see that they were in danger of extermination from the trickery of a high official who was a Jew hater named Haman.

They were finally allowed to arm and defend themselves throughout the Persian Empire against their enemies, thus preventing the evil deed of Haman ( who was himself executed ).


16 posted on 10/16/2015 6:32:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: KC_Lion

That was me in Jerusalem almost 40 years ago. Kippah, Torah but with a Galil.


17 posted on 10/16/2015 10:24:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Jews For Cruz)
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