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Hey, 'Black Lives Matter' -- Do Black Opinions on Guns Matter?
Townhall.com ^ | October 22, 2015 | Larry Elder

Posted on 10/22/2015 6:24:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

"Gun control advocates," reports Politico, "frustrated by repeated failures to pass even moderate restrictions on gun ownership, are trying to forge an alliance with Black Lives Matter and the criminal justice reform movement in a strategy shift aimed at overcoming the lobbying power of the National Rifle Association."

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton recently said: "I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do."

Clinton's Democratic rival Bernie Sanders echoed: "All the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing. I believe that there is a consensus in this country. A consensus has said we need to strengthen and expand instant background checks, do away with this gun show loophole, that we have to address the issue of mental health, that we have to deal with the straw-man purchasing issue, and that when we develop that consensus, we can finally, finally do something to address this issue."

And President Obama readies yet another executive order for further gun control. "President Obama," writes the Washington Post, "is seriously considering circumventing Congress with his executive authority and imposing new background-check requirements for buyers who purchase weapons from high-volume gun dealers. Under the proposed rule change, dealers who exceed a certain number of sales each year would be required to obtain a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and perform background checks on potential buyers."

The civil rights movement, writes professor Thaddeus Russell, author of "A Renegade History of the United States," would not have been successful but for access to guns:

"The philosophy of nonviolence as propounded by Martin Luther King Jr. and the civil rights leadership that emerged in the 1950s was a new and exotic concept to black Southerners. Since before Emancipation, when slaves mounted several organized armed rebellions and countless spontaneous and individual acts of violent resistance to overseers, masters, and patrollers, black men and women consistently demonstrated a willingness to advance their interests at the point of a gun. In the year following the Civil War, black men shot white rioters who attacked blacks in New Orleans and Memphis. Even the original civil rights leadership publicly believed that, as Frederick Douglass put it in 1867, 'a man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.'"

In her book "A Memoir of My Extraordinary, Ordinary Family and Me," former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice writes about guns and her minister father. In 1963, four little girls were killed in the bombing of a Birmingham, Alabama, black church. "After the first explosion,' writes Rice, "Daddy just went outside and sat on the porch with his gun on his lap. He sat there all night looking for white night riders.

"Eventually Daddy and the men of the neighborhood formed a watch. They would take shifts at the head of the entrances to our streets. Occasionally they would fire a gun into the air to scare off intruders, but they never actually shot anyone.

"Because of this experience, I'm a fierce defender of the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms. Had my father and his neighbors registered their weapons, Bull Connor surely would have confiscated them or worse. The Constitution speaks of the right to a well-regulated militia. The inspiration for this was the Founding Fathers' fear of the government. They insisted that citizens have the right, if necessary, to resist the authorities themselves. What better example of responsible gun ownership is there than what the men of my neighborhood did in response to the KKK and Bull Connor?"

Today, a disproportionate number of gun murders are committed by and on blacks. Blacks are, therefore, uniquely affected by this issue. Have Democratic politicians bothered to ask blacks how (SET ITAL) they (END ITAL) feel about more gun control laws?

A new SurveyUSA News Poll of 500 adults in San Diego, California, did just that. It asked, "Should America have more laws concerning guns? Fewer laws concerning guns? Or just about the right amount of laws concerning guns?"

Half of the white respondents -- 50 percent -- want more gun laws. Only 26 percent of blacks agreed. Twenty-one percent of whites want fewer laws, while 47 percent of blacks want fewer laws. And 25 percent of both groups thought the amount of current laws are just right.

Altogether, 72 percent of blacks felt that our current gun laws were sufficient -- or that we needed fewer. Only 46 percent of whites felt the same way.

If black lives matter, what about black opinions on guns?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; afroturf; astroturf; banglist; blackkk; blackliesmatter; blacklivesmatter; guncontrol; racists; redistribution; reparations; secondamendment; whiteprivilege

1 posted on 10/22/2015 6:24:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

How many people a day die from medical procedures and car accidents?

I think I remember a doctors strike back east decades ago and the outcome was there were fewer deaths regarding hospitals that year.


2 posted on 10/22/2015 6:29:53 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Kaslin
"Do Black Opinions on Guns Matter?"

Not to white liberals.
3 posted on 10/22/2015 6:32:22 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Kaslin

Regardless of what the “Black Lives Matter” people say or do not say, their thoughts are no different than any other person interested in self defense. Probably more so, since it is apparent they have violent tendencies, and if such they are the ones that should not pass back ground checks or own firearms.

So these gun control advocates trying to forge an alliance with Black Lives Matter is something on the order of PETA forging an alliance with the fox in order to save the chickens.

PETA to the Fox: “We need to disarm the chickens”

The Fox: “Yes, you are absolutely right, what can we do to help”.


4 posted on 10/22/2015 6:42:03 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: Kaslin
"Under the proposed rule change, dealers who exceed a certain number of sales each year would be required to obtain a license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and perform background checks on potential buyers."

I hope that everyone understands the implications of this - that in order to determine whether a particular person has exceeded a certain number of sales, that EVERY SALE would have to be recorded and submitted to the BATFE.

This proposed E.O. is nothing more and nothing less than the registration of guns - and must be opposed as strenuously as an actual confiscation, because it is a necessary prerequisite to confiscation in the future.

5 posted on 10/22/2015 6:49:04 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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“Gun control advocates,” reports Politico, “frustrated by repeated failures to pass even moderate restrictions on gun ownership...”

This lede makes it sound like there are no gun laws already on the books. I am not a lawyer or a gun enthusiast but I am reasonably sure that some gun legislation has been passed before, right? Like thousands of pages of it?


6 posted on 10/22/2015 6:56:08 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: Kaslin
Black Rifles Matter

(Black Rifles Matter T Shirt)

7 posted on 10/22/2015 6:56:15 AM PDT by GregoTX (Calling Illegal Aliens "immigrants" is like calling burglars "house residents")
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To: Ancesthntr

prerequisite to confiscation in the future.

You’ve seen the wonderful new ads for NRA.

Right, What If The Jews In Germany All Had Guns back in the ‘30s? Would the Holocost have happened?

Not my own original thought but what I heard recently. I wonder about Australia and has occured since they were disarmed? Any stats out there? unalienable.....xo


8 posted on 10/22/2015 6:56:18 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Kaslin

No. Black lives don’t matter to Black Lives Matter unless they’re politically useful to the white guys who run it.


9 posted on 10/22/2015 7:38:38 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Uversabound

Australia’s crime rates went up, with violent crimes going up the most. Google it - the numbers are out there. Oh, and when China invades in 20 or 30 years, they’ll have no means to defend themselves (or much less, because a lot of them have “lost” their guns in “boating accidents.”


10 posted on 10/22/2015 11:02:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Uversabound; Ancesthntr

I have read most of the academic research on the Australian gun confiscation, the imposition of extremely strict controls, and its effects.

In summation - virtually no measurable effect on crime rates.

There was a little bump up initially, then a bit of a reduction, but overall, the crime rate continued on the same path it had been on before.

It seems that there is an increase in *gun crimes*, as in more people are being arrested for illegal guns, but that is an expected effect of making a huge number of previously legal activities illegal.


11 posted on 10/31/2015 9:25:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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