When English Catholics were considered as dangerous as jihadis

Spectator ^ | Oct 24 2015 | David Crane

[WilliamIII]

Gerard Kilroy’s life of Edmund Campion shows how the gifted, charismatic Jesuit never sought a martyr’s fate.

Martyrdom, these days, does not get a good press. Fifty years ago English Catholics could take a ghoulish pride in the suffering of their 16th-century Tyburn heroes, but in a western world that has learned to be wary of extremist talk of ‘holy war’ or the intoxicating visions of the martyr’s crown that fuelled the prayers of England’s young exile priests — ‘the supreme privilege, of which only divine grace could make them worthy’, as Evelyn Waugh put it — somehow makes for less comfortable reading.

It is hard to know whether the modern jihadist has given us an unwelcome insight into the past or disabled us from understanding it, and yet what is certainly true is that Queen Elizabeth I’s government saw these priests pretty much as governments now see terrorists. In 1570, that bleakest of saintly popes Pius V excommunicated Elizabeth, and from the moment that his papal bull released English Catholics from their duty of loyalty, every returning priest — blameless or guilty — was viewed as a political traitor and treated with a savagery that remains a permanent stain on English history.

[Psalm 144]

So what’s this about? Ground work to rehabilitate ‘our’ ‘good’ Salafi jihadis? Some more ObamCon spin? Brave young men, trying to make their country better as McCain would put it?

[tbw2]

The Gunpowder Plot of 1605, in earlier centuries often called the Gunpowder Treason Plot or the Jesuit Treason, was a failed assassination attempt against King James I of England and VI of Scotland by a group of provincial English Catholics led by Robert Catesby.

SO there was a time when Catholics WERE trying to kill the English King and overthrow the government for being Protestant, which is the same threat Islamo-fascists pose today.

[Nifster]

when one posts such crapola, it is expected that you at least comment on it

[MuttTheHoople]

Yes, but now Protestants and Catholics have grown enough to realize that they are NOT enemies...they have different ways of worship, but both believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Besides, Christians need to unify against Islam the common enema, errr, enemy.

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

So....when the pope excommunicates pelosi biden kennedy....they shudder...then begin a priest killing spree. So popes nowadays, cardinals and bishops....leave these powerful folks’ mortal sinfulness to their own free will and damnation, focussing on helping the rest.

Meanwhile, us pius devout conservatives give hell to our pope, cardinals, bishops for not having the guts to excommunicate or deny communion to these....

...like pope pius 12 learned from having an antinazi letter read on a sunday all over germany....only to cause hitler to round up thousands in belgium to kill for that.

Our cowardly bishops...focussing on their flock, instead of those free will married to satan like queen elizabeth of then, pelosi biden kennedy....