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How Will Trump Handle the Indignity of Second Place?
National Review ^ | 11/04/2015 | Charles C.W. Cooke

Posted on 11/04/2015 7:08:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

So you’re saying the results from a question on who can beat Hillary were not considered when formulating who could beat Hillary...

No wonder no one believes these polls.


81 posted on 11/04/2015 9:30:04 AM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

I’m saying that an opinion of who can best beat Hillary and who one is going to vote for, are two different questions.

The RCP tables, I believe, asks the question and then tabulates the results of the answers to :

“Between a match-up of Candidate X versus Hillary, who will you vote for?”


82 posted on 11/04/2015 9:36:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: detch

RE: If Carson were to become the Republican candidate, the MSM would destroy him on his belonging to a religion that has a doctrine of pacifism

I can’t answer for Carson, but I believe it can be easily responded to.

He can always cite the example of the QUAKERS ( the ultimate pacifists ), who had a President belonging to their denomination -— Richard Nixon.

The man bombed the hell out of Hanoi and sent arms to Israel during the 1973 Yom Kippur war.


83 posted on 11/04/2015 9:40:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is total BS being played up by media everywhere.

I will never believe that Ben Carson is really a favorite candidate over Trump.

I believe people like him and find him refreshingly modest and soft-spoken.

As soon as everyone is convinced that he’s a genuine front runner, the attacks will begin and there will be fodder for them.

The thing about Trump is we already know everything about him... nothing is lurking in the shadows to trip him up.

The thing about Carson is we hardly know anything about him except surgeon, nice guy, Black, pro-life... there could be things in the shadows ... not that I wish there were but I think there may be.


84 posted on 11/04/2015 9:41:50 AM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The RCP tables, I believe, asks the question... “

I would take the title “Average of Polls” to mean just that. An average of a selected group of existing polls, flawed or not.

Regardless, your post #72 General Election: Carson vs. Clinton, with regards to NBC/WSJ poll, where are you getting that “tie” from. She’s well ahead of all GOP candidates which isn’t surprising since most respondents consider themselves “strong democrats”.


85 posted on 11/04/2015 9:59:50 AM PST by moehoward
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t remember Nixon taking a pacifist approach AT ANY TIME.

I do recall Carson taking a more-or-less pacifist approach in his campaign (although saying very little about it).

One thing is certain, and that is that he would be be grilled and drilled on it by the press during a campaign against Hillary. And of course, not by her, but her surrogates as well as the MSM. She would proudly portray herself as the tough one...

Republican Party can’t risk it. There are too many votes would be lost for him to have a chance in the Presidential election.


86 posted on 11/04/2015 10:18:29 AM PST by detch (")
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To: deport

Agreed.

Not that he’s not a nice guy, and intelligent as heck, but his timing is lousy. Even IF we all thought we needed another minority President, Dems won’t vote for him even based on skin color, as he’s a HATED Republican.

But, to be fair, I never have, nor ever will vote for a Dem of any race, creed or color. ;)


87 posted on 11/04/2015 10:29:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: jjotto
There are the GOP equivalent of ‘superdelegates’, who are 15-20% of total delegates and are mostly non-committed.

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds complicated.
88 posted on 11/04/2015 10:31:09 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: SeekAndFind

More National Review wishing. Does anyone actually buy that bird cage liner anymore?


89 posted on 11/04/2015 10:33:01 AM PST by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m not happy to say it nor am I especially proud of those who I believe make it so - but after Obama I seriously doubt American voters will trust another black man in the Oval Office for awhile. Carson might very well be able to do a good job as President but even black voters are unhappy with Obama and if they don’t vote for whatever white guy is nominated, they’ll just not show up to vote at all.

My wife (a red-headed white woman) is the pastor of a “black” Church. Nearly all of the members voted for Obama in 2008, fewer in 2012 and now almost none of them say anything nice about him. He’s poisoned the water and black candidates will likely suffer from it in 2016.


90 posted on 11/04/2015 2:42:05 PM PST by oldfart
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To: oldfart

I live south of, but work in, ‘The People’s Republic of Madistan’ and believe me I am surrounded by RABID Liberals each and every day...co-workers and customers alike.

After 8 YEARS of Bush-Bashing on a daily basis, mouth-frothing over trying to recall our Republican Governor, Scott Walker, and a few Victory Laps after 0bama was elected the first time, they’ve been ABSOLUTELY SILENT on the guy. Even after he won re-election; no gloating, no nothing.

I’d like to say it gained them a new level of respect from me, but it didn’t.

*SNORT*

Useful Idiots, All.


91 posted on 11/04/2015 5:04:28 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yeah, it just might be that Obama stepped on his Richard when he tried to take too big a bite out of our freedom. It will still depend on “urging” a new administration to rescind some of the executive orders that somehow have the force of law. Part of me wants Trump or Cruz to simply make ALL of Obamas edicts null and void but people have been living with them for eight years and that much sudden change would lead to violence. I’ve been saying for quite awhile that - while we voted our way into this mess, we won’t be able to vote our way out. Still, I’d like to avoid bloodshed as much as possible.


92 posted on 11/05/2015 9:21:33 AM PST by oldfart
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To: oldfart

“Still, I’d like to avoid bloodshed as much as possible.”

Everyday People? Yes.

Politicians of both stripes that aided and abetted 0bama?

Heads on pikes. :)


93 posted on 11/05/2015 10:12:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind
What's that? Ben Carson is now leading the Republican pack, beating Trump by six points nationally? And Carson is ascendant in more than one poll?

LOL. Mark this as the day National Review went totally MSNBC.

94 posted on 11/05/2015 10:15:26 AM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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