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The GOP’s Primary Rules Might Doom Carson, Cruz And Trump
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| 11/4/15
| David Wasserman
Posted on 11/04/2015 7:13:27 AM PST by ghost of stonewall jackson
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
GOP delegate shenanigans is always a factor, the Romney nod is evident of this. Trump must have yuge numbers early on to counter this.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:00:06 AM PST
by
free_life
(If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
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2015-11-04 : Political Prediction
Yeb Bush will "intelligently" REFUSE to exit the 2016 GOP Presidential Race until he is DEFEATED in the 2016 March 15 Florida Primary.
Period.
Why ?
Yeb Bush's political "ace in the hole" is the hopelessly corrupt Florida Republican Party ... the ones who redistricted the great Allen West out-of-office.
"Anything" can happen in a "New York Minute" in American politics.
Just ask Machiavelli, Abraham Lincoln, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Vince Foster, Gary Hart, Buddy Holly, U.S. Senators Hale Boggs, Ted Stevens, and Paul Wellstone, Herman Cain ...
and Napoleon at Waterloo (who was winning the battle, and Wellington admitting defeat, as late as 5:00 PM in the afternoon).
Ninety-eight (98) GOP Convention delegates are at stake in Florida's "mas mucho rigged" state Presidential Primary (Winner take All).
That makes it more convenient for Yeb's GOPe Chamber of Commerce Political Whores (aka the Florida Republican Party) to hand Yeb 98 convention delegates on a silver platter.
Yeb Bush has absolutely NOTHING to lose by staying in the presidential race (anything can happen).
Is it a longshot ? Absolutely.
Has Karl Rove already planned for this scenario ? Absolutely.
Will Dr. Ben Carson endorse Yeb Bush when the good doctor is "finished" ? Absolutely.
As a romantic interest once told me ... "It's All About the Money" ... perfectly applicable to Yeb Bush, Ben Carson, and Karl Rove.
To: Crazieman
That is only a threat if one assumes that the GOPe had any intention of winning in the first place.
Starve them.
Withhold all funds from the RNC until delegate allocation is corrected.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:10:52 AM PST
by
gnarledmaw
(Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
To: Paine in the Neck
Trump would blow that sky high.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:15:28 AM PST
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
This is ridiculous. The way it ought to be is weighted — everybody’s primary vote counts toward 1 delegate so everybody gets some representation, but with +1 weight for each GOP federal office (Represenative, Senator, Presidential electors in previous election). That way, the blue-state primary votes would count for one each while red-region votes would count up to five each.
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
Good point, and so many Republican primary voters just aren’t “republican”.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:20:22 AM PST
by
Theodore R.
(Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
I’ve been saying pretty much this since the process started.
The rules are set so that Bush, whatever his national % will likely get his required-for-consideration majorities in those Democrat state primaries and and the several conservative candidates are each unlikely to get those 8 in the rest. Without 8, which number was selected to screen out the conservatives even if a conservative has the majority of all delegates won so long as he doesn’t have 8 outright majorities. If Bush crashes out then Rubio drops neatly right into the same position. In the extreme the Gope candidate doesn’t have to get a single vote in the primaries in states that are expected to vote or who lean Republican so long as he gets his 8 majorities in the ineffectual states. That also fits Republican strategy to ensure an electoral loss in November. The Republican Party, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party is determined to remain as the “opposition” permanently, or at least until the voting population is increased through immigration and the effective legitimization of Democrat vote fraud to usher in the Permanent Democrat Total State. Then the Republicans expect to be comfortable pensioned off and rewarded with high positions in the new State. The reality attested to in History is that the Republicans will then become the first victims in the Show Trials that will ensue and serve the Democrat Party yet again as object lessons for the population.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:27:13 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The reality is that Jeb is finished,Rubio is up and down.
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posted on
11/04/2015 8:55:50 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: arthurus
What if Jeb drops out first?
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posted on
11/04/2015 9:01:44 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
The G.O.P.e. maintains open primaries so that Liberal Democrats can cross over to vote for their preferred leftist RINOs.
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posted on
11/04/2015 9:17:30 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
If Trump, Carson or Cruz win the nomination, the GOPe will push for Hitlery to take on Jeb for her VP.
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posted on
11/04/2015 9:34:57 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
Blah, blah, blah. This country would be better off firing 98% of all journalists. There’s a big difference between journalists and reporters. Too bad we don’t have any of the later.
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posted on
11/04/2015 9:48:33 AM PST
by
bgill
( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
To: Biggirl
From the looks of it Rubio will inherit the GOPe imprimatur. That might be the source of the apparent animosity displayed by Bush toward Rubio. Perhaps it has already been decided.
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posted on
11/04/2015 9:51:46 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
I’m a hugh Ted Cruz fan but here lately I’m beginning to wonder if we don’t need both men. Trump will not play 2nd fiddle to anyone. If it looked like he would lose I think he would just drop out. He’d never accept VP under anyone. So, going forward I really think we should be pushing for a Trump/Cruz ticket. Trump would benefit from Cruz (during his administration) far more than with any other candidate running. If some miracle happened and Cruz wins the nomination I have no idea who he would pick as a VP. So going forward I think that is our strongest ticket. It would get the libertarians and even some Dem voters for Trump and the conservative evangelical votes for Cruz. What do you all think?
To: arthurus
Unless Rubio drops out first.
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posted on
11/04/2015 10:14:59 AM PST
by
Biggirl
("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
To: arthurus
That’s a pretty good summary. I sure hope it doesn’t play out that way but I think you nailed the GOPe’s thinking.
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
I was/am hoping Bush would not drop out until after the FL primary as he might tend to take vote from Rubio and thus allow a win by Trump or Cruz.
To: Biggirl
Hey, I heard your handle mentioned on Friday’s Mark Levin show. Congrats!
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posted on
11/04/2015 2:50:30 PM PST
by
St_Thomas_Aquinas
( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
To: Lake Living
I'm a hugh Ted Cruz fan but here lately I'm beginning to wonder if we don't need both men. Trump will not play 2nd fiddle to anyone. If it looked like he would lose I think he would just drop out. He'd never accept VP under anyone. So, going forward I really think we should be pushing for a Trump/Cruz ticket. Bingo. You're thinking strategically. It's light years ahead of many freepers, who still think they should trash all other R candidates but the one who is their personal favorite, regardless of whether he can get elected.
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posted on
11/04/2015 3:51:16 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
(If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
To: ghost of stonewall jackson
The liberal Republican voters who will have little to no sway are of no consequence in the general election could have some of the most sway in the primary select a candidate insufficiently appealing to turnout the base in swing states. Fixed.
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posted on
11/06/2015 7:01:44 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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